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| MisterOpus1 |
The problem with Iraq is all you anti-American, Bush-hatin', tree-huggin', librul-lovin' pussies just ain't supporting our troops and our cause enough. You haven't a ing clue as to how much support we need there.
So do us all true patriots a favor and either shut the up, or clap louder:
| quote: | BAGHDAD, Nov. 25 — The insurgency in Iraq is now self-sustaining financially, raising tens of millions of dollars a year from oil smuggling, kidnapping, counterfeiting, corrupt charities and other crimes that the Iraqi government and its American patrons have been largely unable to prevent, a classified United States government report has concluded.
The report, obtained by The New York Times, estimates that groups responsible for many of the insurgent and terrorist attacks are raising $70 million to $200 million a year from illegal activities. It says that $25 million to $100 million of the total comes from oil smuggling and other criminal activity involving the state-owned oil industry aided by “corrupt and complicit” Iraqi officials.
As much as $36 million a year comes from ransoms paid to save hundreds of kidnap victims in Iraq, the report said. It estimates that unnamed foreign governments — previously identified by senior American officials as including France and Italy — paid Iraqi kidnappers $30 million in ransom last year.
....“If accurate,” the report says, its estimates indicate that these “sources of terrorist and insurgent finance within Iraq — independent of foreign sources — are currently sufficient to sustain the groups’ existence and operation.” To this, it adds what may be its most surprising conclusion: “In fact, if recent revenue and expense estimates are correct, terrorist and insurgent groups in Iraq may have surplus funds with which to support other terrorist organizations outside of Iraq.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/26/w...agewanted=print |
You ing pussies, I said CLAP LOUDER!:
| quote: | There will be no victory or defeat for the United States in Iraq. These terms do not reflect the reality of what is going to happen there. The future of Iraq was always going to be determined by the Iraqis -- not the Americans.
Iraq is not a prize to be won or lost. It is part of the ongoing global struggle against instability, brutality, intolerance, extremism and terrorism. There will be no military victory or military solution for Iraq. Former secretary of state Henry Kissinger made this point last weekend.
The time for more U.S. troops in Iraq has passed. We do not have more troops to send and, even if we did, they would not bring a resolution to Iraq. Militaries are built to fight and win wars, not bind together failing nations. We are once again learning a very hard lesson in foreign affairs: America cannot impose a democracy on any nation -- regardless of our noble purpose.
We have misunderstood, misread, misplanned and mismanaged our honorable intentions in Iraq with an arrogant self-delusion reminiscent of Vietnam. Honorable intentions are not policies and plans. Iraq belongs to the 25 million Iraqis who live there. They will decide their fate and form of government.
-Chuck Hagel
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...6112401104.html |
Must be a Democrat librul. I said CLAP LOUDER!:
| quote: | Gunmen bent on revenge burned mosques and homes in a Sunni enclave of Baghdad on Friday as Iraq's leaders pleaded for calm, a day after the worst bomb attack since the U.S. invasion.
Some 30 people were killed, police said, as suspected Shi'ite militiamen rampaged for hours, untroubled by a curfew enforced in the capital by U.S. and Iraqi forces after bombs killed 202 people in the Shi'ite stronghold of Sadr City.
Four mosques and several houses were burned in a small Sunni part of the mainly Shi'ite Hurriya area in northwest Baghdad, Sunni Deputy Prime Minister Salem al-Zobaie told Reuters.
One witness said 14 people were killed in his mosque during Friday prayers: "It was attacked by rocket-propelled grenades," university teacher Imad al-Din al-Hashemi said. "When the gunmen moved on to attack another mosque, we evacuated the wounded."
http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...ry_R1_topnews-1 |
LOUDER you anti-military pussies!:
| quote: | KATHLEEN KOCH: Michael, the Iraqi government and the U.S. military in Baghdad keep saying this is not a civil war. What are you seeing?
MICHAEL WARE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, firstly, let me say, perhaps it's easier to deny that this is a civil war, when essentially you live in the most heavily fortified place in the country within the Green Zone, which is true of both the prime minister, the national security adviser for Iraq and, of course, the top U.S. military commanders. However, for the people living on the streets, for Iraqis in their homes, if this is not civil war, or a form of it, then they do not want to see what one really looks like.
This is what we're talking about. We're talking about Sunni neighborhoods shelling Shia neighborhoods, and Shia neighborhoods shelling back.
We're having Sunni communities dig fighting positions to protect their streets. We're seeing Sunni extremists plunging car bombs into heavily-populated Shia marketplaces. We're seeing institutionalized Shia death squads in legitimate police and national police commando uniforms going in, systematically, to Sunni homes in the middle of the night and dragging them out, never to be seen again.
I mean, if this is not civil war, where there is, on average, 40 to 50 tortured, mutilated, executed bodies showing up on the capital streets each morning, where we have thousands of unaccounted for dead bodies mounting up every month, and where the list of those who have simply disappeared for the sake of the fact that they have the wrong name, a name that is either Sunni or Shia, so much so that we have people getting dual identity cards, where parents cannot send their children to school, because they have to cross a sectarian line, then, goodness, me, I don't want to see what a civil war looks like either if this isn't one.
............. Maliki has no popular base. He lacks the currency of political power in this country, which is an armed militia. So he's had to beg and borrow for political capital.
He found that the U.S. military desperate to put any kind of reasonable face on this apparition that they call the Iraqi government. And meanwhile, in real political terms, he's had to draw on Muqtada's militia and its political faction to actually put him into place.
So this is a man in a terrible predicament, who is unable to deliver. And yet, we have Muqtada in this time of crisis just turning that screw.
He has threatened to withdraw -- well, his people have threatened to withdraw participation in the parliament and the government if he meets with what they call the criminal Bush. Nonetheless, he is so acute, his political advisers and Muqtada himself. This was a statement made by his leading parliamentarian. It didn't come from his mouth himself. So he can use this as very convenient leverage this week in the leadup to the Maliki-Bush meeting, and at the last minute, he can pull away from it. And nonetheless, he still wins.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRI.../24/ldt.01.html |
Did I say stop? I don't care if your hands are bleeding! Keep clapping you pussies!:
| quote: | The war in Iraq has lasted longer than U.S. involvement in the war that President Bush's father fought in, World War II. As of today, the conflict in Iraq has raged for three years and just over eight months. ...Bush says he still is undecided whether to start bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq or add to the 140,000 there now.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation...S-war26.article |
What have you all gone insane? Keep clapping!:
| quote: | Followers of the militant Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr took over state-run television Saturday to denounce the Iraqi government, label Sunnis "terrorists" and issue what appeared to many viewers as a call to arms.
The two-hour broadcast from a community gathering in the heart of the Shiite militia stronghold of Sadr City included three members of al-Sadr's parliamentary bloc, who took questions from outraged residents demanding revenge for a series of car bombings that killed some 200 people Thursday.
With Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki relegated to the sidelines, brazen Sunni-Shiite attacks continue unchecked despite a 24-hour curfew over Baghdad. Al-Sadr's Mahdi Army militia now controls wide swaths of the capital, his politicians are the backbone of the Cabinet, and his followers deeply entrenched in the Iraqi security forces. Sectarian violence has spun so rapidly out of control since the Sadr City blasts, however, that it's not clear whether even al-Sadr has the authority - or the will - to stop the cycle of bloodshed...
Sunni politicians vowed to file complaints against the channel for inciting sectarian violence. Ordinary Sunnis were shocked to hear their neighborhoods singled out for attack on the government's station.
"I got four phone calls from friends telling me to change the channel to Iraqiya and see what's happening," said Mohamed Othman, 27, a Sunni resident of Ameriya, one of the districts mentioned in the program. "I think this is an official declaration of civil war against Sunnis. They're going to push us to join al-Qaida to protect ourselves."
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/merc...aq/16092045.htm |
You morons! Don't you know the sight of VICTORY when you see it? Clapping must not stop!:
| quote: | Rumsfeld okayed abuses says former U.S. general
MADRID (Reuters) - Outgoing Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the mistreatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, the prison's former U.S. commander said in an interview on Saturday.
Former U.S. Army Brigadier General Janis Karpinski told Spain's El Pais newspaper she had seen a letter apparently signed by Rumsfeld which allowed civilian contractors to use techniques such as sleep deprivation during interrogation.
..."The handwritten signature was above his printed name and in the same handwriting in the margin was written: "Make sure this is accomplished"," she told Saturday's El Pais.
... Rumsfeld also authorized the army to break the Geneva Conventions by not registering all prisoners, Karpinski said, explaining how she raised the case of one unregistered inmate with an aide to former U.S. commander Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez.
[According to Karpinski,] "We received a message from the Pentagon, from the Defense Secretary, ordering us to hold the prisoner without registering him. I now know this happened on various occasions."
http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...ELD.xml&src=rss |
Victory, dammit! VICTORY!:
| quote: | A spokesman says US President George W Bush is committed to working with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki, and a meeting between the two leaders in Jordan next week will go ahead.
Supporters of the prominent Iraqi Shia cleric, Moqtada al-Sadr, have threatened to pull out of Iraq's national unity cabinet and parliament if Prime Minister Al-Maliki meets Mr Bush as planned next week.
The group says US troops should be held responsible for attacks in Sadr City because the troops had failed to improve security there.
It claims to have evidence of collusion between US forces and Sunni extremists.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitem...11/s1797204.htm |
You see? Don't you see it yet? Can't you feel that wave of excitement through your veins as you clap? Doesn't it feel good to know you're on the winner side of the field? All you have to do is ignore that librul negative media spin, and you got yurself a victory that is simply insurmountable.
Keep up the good work, Dubya! That's my boy! |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
*clap* |
Very funny.:p |
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| shaolin_Z |
| Good post Opus. *clap* (for Opus ;) ) |
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| julien2 |
lolkansascity
dumbass. |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
The problem with Iraq is all you anti-American, Bush-hatin', tree-huggin', librul-lovin' pussies just ain't supporting our troops and our cause enough. You haven't a ing clue as to how much support we need there. |
:rolleyes:
That is all. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
:rolleyes:
That is all. |
Opus was being (really) sarcastic there. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by julien2
lolkansascity
dumbass. |
Hi Julien. You seem a bit new here. Is there anything worthwhile and slightly meaningful that you wish to add? Or how about something actually witty?
Is there something relevant to my geography that somehow subtracts from my first post? Feel free to speak up on this anytime you see fit. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| ^^^ I don't think they read the entire post and were completey mislead by and didn't get your sarcasm. To be honest, if I wasn't a regular familiar with your political views, and skimmed over your post (or stopped reading it after the opening lines), I probably would have gotton the wrong impression too. |
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| MrSquirrel |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Is there something relevant to my geography that somehow subtracts from my first post? Feel free to speak up on this anytime you see fit. |
Dude.
You live in Kansas City, geographic center of the USA. You must be like, you know, totally dumb to be living there.
How could you be so dumb as to not realize that? Oh wait, you live in Kansas City, that explains why.
MrS |
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