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Iran and Syria Helping Hizballah Rearm (pg. 2)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by TheDemon
You yourself need to have an understanding of middle eastern mentality to answer that question. |
well, even though your opinion is a laughing stock in the PDD, please englighten me. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what i dont understand, is why none of you terrorist apologists dont take issue with syria or iran subjugating the lebanese people via a proxy war with israel? |
Proxy wars are faught on several fronts. Hezbollah came after the invasion of the first lebanese war. You invade a country to kill the PA, and slaughter 50,000 lebanese civilians at the same time.... you get pissed off people.
I dont agree with Hizbollahs islamic agenda,, as i am titally aginst religious implentation in government, but if they can DEFEND Lebanon from Israels invasions... i support them.
If it were the Lebanese army defending lebanon from Israels invasion.. i would support them too.
I look at intent.. instead of attacking people with labels slapped on them. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
what i dont understand, is why none of you terrorist apologists |
You know, the funny things is, I'd call 'US apologists' and 'Israel apologists' 'terrorist apologists', where the label is actually far more appropriate as those two states have engaged in far more terrorism than anyone else ever since WW2. No one is condoning terrorism when they criticize US or Israeli policy, far from it, just like you don't condone Israli state sponsored terrorism ;). |
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| TheDemon |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
well, even though your opinion is a laughing stock in the PDD, please englighten me. |
maybe if you show some respect. LAMO. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Proxy wars are faught on several fronts. Hezbollah came after the invasion of the first lebanese war. You invade a country to kill the PA, and slaughter 50,000 lebanese civilians at the same time.... you get pissed off people.
I dont agree with Hizbollahs islamic agenda,, as i am titally aginst religious implentation in government, but if they can DEFEND Lebanon from Israels invasions... i support them.
If it were the Lebanese army defending lebanon from Israels invasion.. i would support them too.
I look at intent.. instead of attacking people with labels slapped on them. |
but how do you defend a country like iran using hezbollah to undermine lebanese authority or sovereignty? theres no way hezbollah didn't "ok" the soldier kidnapping operation with iran. now, the resulting invasion was indefensible to say the least, but iran should shoulder some of the blame for it. hezbollah aren't defending anyone- exactly how did they defend the 1000 civilians killed by israel? did they prevent the destruction of bridges and other vital infrastrucure?
they fired a few mis-guided rockets into israel. wow.
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_z
You know, the funny things is, I'd call 'US apologists' and 'Israel apologists' 'terrorist apologists', where the label is actually far more appropriate as those two states have engaged in far more terrorism than anyone else ever since WW2. No one is condoning terrorism when they criticize US or Israeli policy, far from it, just like you don't condone Israli state sponsored terrorism. |
i know, but its always the same people criticising from the same angle. as if the US or Israel or whomever dont have legitimate grievances from time to time. as if this is a conflict with only one nation/organisation at fault or as an aggressor.
as long as this is a game where partisanship rules supreme, we will never see an end to the bloodshed. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
but how do you defend a country like iran using hezbollah to undermine lebanese authority or sovereignty? theres no way hezbollah didn't "ok" the soldier kidnapping operation with iran. now, the resulting invasion was indefensible to say the least, but iran should shoulder some of the blame for it. hezbollah aren't defending anyone- exactly how did they defend the 1000 civilians killed by israel? did they prevent the destruction of bridges and other vital infrastrucure?
they fired a few mis-guided rockets into israel. wow.
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They were defending Lebanon as most people would,,, by FIGHTING back. Just becuase people were killed, and bridges were bombed.. doesnt mean that hezbollah wasnt fighting Israels murderous campaign. And you know what, Hezbollah did indeed fight the ground forces like "lions" as one ISraeli general put it. He was very surprised at how well they faught.
Dont utlize the "soldier" incident as something that started that war. There have been countles similar skirmishes like that along the leb/israel border ever since Israel left Lebanon in 2000 |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i know, but its always the same people criticising from the same angle. as if the US or Israel or whomever dont have legitimate grievances from time to time. as if this is a conflict with only one nation/organisation at fault or as an aggressor.
as long as this is a game where partisanship rules supreme, we will never see an end to the bloodshed. |
It's not partisanship, it's clarity in seeing a cause and effect relationship. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
It's not partisanship, it's clarity in seeing a cause and effect relationship. |
yeah, but are you ignoring the part non-israeli actors play in this relationship? |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yeah, but are you ignoring the part non-israeli actors play in this relationship? |
Like the US? ;) :p |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Like the US? ;) :p |
en lol mate! :D man did i walk straight into that one... |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
en lol mate! :D man did i walk straight into that one... |
Hehe. :disbelief :p
EDIT: Let me rephrase that: Mwauahahahaha! :disbelief :p |
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| hardcore trancer |
oh no the evil Iranians are at it again!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
shame on them for supporting a group who is protecting Lebenon.:o |
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