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Was the holocaust real ? (pg. 3)
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marc Summers
The Holocaust is a specific genocide, so no. |
My bad. I wanted to imply a Genocide. Just checked the definition of Ethic Cleansing. I thought it meant systematic murder of people of a specific ethnicity. |
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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
My bad. I wanted to imply a Genocide. Just checked the definition of Ethic Cleaning. I thought it meant systematic murder of people of a specific ethnicity. |
There is a committee that actually has to approve a massacre of people to be considered a genocide. There are certain guidlines. I forget everything about it, but I know it exists. I'll start googling. |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marc Summers
There is a committee that actually has to approve a massacre of people to be considered a genocide. There are certain guidlines. I forget everything about it, but I know it exists. I'll start googling. |
, I'm not all technical into this stuff..but giving a legal basis to Genocide and issuing guidelines by a committee itself should be an illegal activity in the international courts.
Besides, I guess, the holocausts had the approval of the Nazi bosses, Hitler, Himmler, Goebels, Goering and prolly many more. Further, considering these people were Germans, the methodical and systematic way in which the killings were carried out would mean the killers were issued guidelines, "how to", FAQs etc. |
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| Lateralus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
, I'm not all technical into this stuff..but giving a legal basis to Genocide and issuing guidelines by a committee itself should be an illegal activity in the international courts.
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No one said the UN was making genocide "legal". All they do is designate it a "genocide" as opposed to mass murder or war. |
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| Pheobius |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
, I'm not all technical into this stuff..but giving a legal basis to Genocide and issuing guidelines by a committee itself should be an illegal activity in the international courts. |
Exactly what Lateralus said. If and when they decide a massacre has reached the level of genocide the international community is legally required to act, that is why there is a committee, to decide when it has reached genocide. That is also why there is so much faff around whether what is happening in Darfur is offically called genocide, because then we might have to get off our arses and actually do something. |
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| wienerschnitzel |
| it is really easy to access all kinds of information on WWII especially the holocaust. If you care, look for yourself. Look at all the images on google and other sites. There is no question in my mind that the accusations against the nazis is what really happened. my grandpa was there for the liberation, so were 3 of my great uncles, i don't think they are lying. Look up how many jews used to live in Poland pre-war and how many still remain or moved back just after the war. |
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| bananas |
| Attack! Attack the jew! |
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| Events@Spec |
| Where did all those people go? We're they abducted in the forests by UFOs? |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
, I'm not all technical into this stuff..but giving a legal basis to Genocide and issuing guidelines by a committee itself should be an illegal activity in the international courts. |
They don't issue guidelines on how a genocied is allowed to be carried out. They look at a situation in which a massacre is occurring and follow certain guidelines to determine whether it is a case of genocide. If it is, the international community can step in and stop it.
| quote: | | Besides, I guess, the holocausts had the approval of the Nazi bosses, Hitler, Himmler, Goebels, Goering and prolly many more. Further, considering these people were Germans, the methodical and systematic way in which the killings were carried out would mean the killers were issued guidelines, "how to", FAQs etc. |
Yes they were. The "Final Solution To The Jewish Question" was pretty well documented by the Third Reich. These documents were used as evidence at Nuremberg. |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
They don't issue guidelines on how a genocied is allowed to be carried out. They look at a situation in which a massacre is occurring and follow certain guidelines to determine whether it is a case of genocide. If it is, the international community can step in and stop it. |
When he said | quote: | | There is a committee that actually has to approve a massacre of people to be considered a genocide. There are certain guidlines. I forget everything about it, but I know it exists. I'll start googling. |
I mistook that as being some sort of technical thing with the country carrying out the genocide, not the UN. After that he posted those links to Sudan genocide and it cleared things up. He said he's taken a Genocide studies class so I thought maybe there's something more to genocides than one thinks of. :o |
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| EvilTree |
| This topic is too serious for c0r |
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