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good stuff here...
I used to avoid songs that I've seen on big DJs tracklists on purpose, just so I know that I'll be playing something different than the majority of people out there. That's not to say don't find out what's big and hot, just know that you don't necessarily have to buy it.
digital sites really have made the time it takes to find gems much longer...personally i don't even have that time now with work and all. but what i do is every so often is i'll sit down and hit all the sites (digital and vinyl) and just go through their new releases starting from the back. and yes, avoid the top10s and clicking on the "users who bought this also bought this" links. i try to avoid names that i know and have seen on other people's tracklists (unless i'm looking for that particular track)...basically i'll listen to all the songs from labels i don't know before i listen to the new stuff from anjuna/discover/armada/etc that you know everyone is caning.
altho i'm way behind on trance now...just don't have the time to sit on my ass at home and keep up anymore. *sigh. and now that all the decent record stores have shut, i can't even walk in to listen to things anymore. :( |
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| sleepydragon |
| have you tried producing? you will have some exclusive tracks then that only you can play. |
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| Nemesis44 |
Get to know producers.
Even go and check the producers forum you will no doubt find something you like.
Always make sure you ask permission before you play something out, most will be okay with this but it's basically a courtesy.
Again be prepared to wade through crap as always but you will find some tracks that are very good and unique and not available anywhere else.
They buzz word for the day though is get the consent of the producer.
Cheers
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| Stu Cox |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
Get to know producers.
Even go and check the producers forum you will no doubt find something you like.
| Agreed. Most of the producers who send me tracks I know through messageboards, including the producer promotion section on here. |
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| Tony Morello |
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
dont read tracklists until after you have listened to a set and then want to find the name/artist of a particular one.
dont look at the charts on download/vinyl stores and view them as essential purchases.
dont follow the crowd.
dont pigeonhole yourself to one style or genre and ignore certain tracks because tiesto/*insert random name here* wouldn't play it. Forge your own sound and style.
If YOU like it buy it, not just because some nob bought/played/plugged it. If you don't like it then pass on it.
Too many sheep in this business (or any business TBH) and its bollocks.
This is just another of the reasons I personally hate digital download sites and avoid them where possible.
It's just a giant binary bandwagon |
+1
and +1 on getting to know producers, free tracks are the shiznit, as always you have to sift
i also have a guy that knows my style in and out, he calls himself my R&D, he knows what i like and finds some good stuff for me, but again, there is sifting involved |
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| Michael May |
| quote: | Originally posted by sleepydragon
have you tried producing? you will have some exclusive tracks then that only you can play. |
I want to get into it, I just don't know where to start. I was messing around with it about 2 years ago when I got laid off from my job for six months. I used reason, ableton, messed with a couple programs I forget the name to, and of coarse, everyones favorite, FRUITY LOOPS. LOL. But I had pretty much no clue what I was doing (although I thought I did) and what I did end up making just sounded like a bunch of loops going back and forth to one another. It was pretty funny now that I think of it. Damn, how I tourtured my freinds and family with it. But on a serious note, I do want to produce. I just bought a Mac Powerbook and have been checking into more and more software everytime I go to the DJ store, and trying to research it online, and have been reading the production forums. There is just so much info on it, and the software is so expensive I just want to make sure I am making the right decisions when I go to purchase the software and whatever other hardware I may need.
But, thanks everyone for all the feedback. It sort of caught me off guard because I was not expecting this many responses so fast. When I got home from work and checked the thread I did not know where to start with reading all the feedback. But I did read every last one of the posts on here and want to thank you guys for all the helpfull information. It really does look as if I may not be searching hard enough, so I am going to kick it up a notch and take the advice that was given to me in the posts. Thanks again.
Rock On,
Mike |
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| Michael May |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
Get to know producers.
Even go and check the producers forum you will no doubt find something you like.
Always make sure you ask permission before you play something out, most will be okay with this but it's basically a courtesy.
Again be prepared to wade through crap as always but you will find some tracks that are very good and unique and not available anywhere else.
They buzz word for the day though is get the consent of the producer.
Cheers
Nem |
Thanks Nem. You and the producers have my word that if I find something I like I will not play it out until I get the ok from the producer. Great advice. Thanks.
Mike |
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| Allen Mueller |
I just take my time and try to listen to all the tracks I can. When I go on a site like beatport i just listen to all he traks i can regardless of lable or artest. Since with dowload sites eveyone has the same access you have to work harder and dig more than the average person to get the good stuff.
Big dj's will always get stuff first thats just the way it is. I remember back before digital was so big I would wait almost a year to get a track on vinyl that i heard on a cd some times. It would be even longer if you just heard something a big dj was playing in the club.
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| reeftiger |
I don't know how old some of your stuff is, but I personally like a lot of my older stuff. In fact, just because tracks are old doesn't mean everyone has heard them. Plus, as far as I'm concerned if a track is bad ass it stays bad ass unless it is played into the ground.
For instance As the rush comes is a bad ass song, but it has been played into the ground. I refuse to even listen to it anymore myself. However, songs like cryptomnesia for example are still great to listen to. Also, you can never be sure how many times people you're playing for have heard any particular song.
That's why it's important to play songs you really like. I don't care how old a song is, I just make sure to not play all old songs.
Try listening to some older compilation mixes from dj's you like then pick out songs you'd really like to have. Then go to www.gemm.com and search for them. You may have to pay a little more to get them shipped, but you definitely get songs you know you like and that others are not potentially playing.
My two cents anyway. |
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| Michael May |
| quote: | Originally posted by reeftiger
I don't know how old some of your stuff is, but I personally like a lot of my older stuff. In fact, just because tracks are old doesn't mean everyone has heard them. Plus, as far as I'm concerned if a track is bad ass it stays bad ass unless it is played into the ground.
For instance As the rush comes is a bad ass song, but it has been played into the ground. I refuse to even listen to it anymore myself. However, songs like cryptomnesia for example are still great to listen to. Also, you can never be sure how many times people you're playing for have heard any particular song.
That's why it's important to play songs you really like. I don't care how old a song is, I just make sure to not play all old songs.
Try listening to some older compilation mixes from dj's you like then pick out songs you'd really like to have. Then go to www.gemm.com and search for them. You may have to pay a little more to get them shipped, but you definitely get songs you know you like and that others are not potentially playing.
My two cents anyway. |
Thanks. My tracks are fairly recent. I try to keep up to date with new tunes. But, I have been purchasing alot of older tunes latley. Thanks for the link and your input.
Mike |
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| Allied Nations |
This is a great thread.
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Great replies guys! |
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| Stu Cox |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tony Morello
i also have a guy that knows my style in and out, he calls himself my R&D |
You mean your A&R?
Artists & Repetoire rather than Research & Development? ;) |
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