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Making large (10+) BPM changes in a mix? (pg. 2)
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| dj_kane |
| if you mixed with ableton it would be much easier as you could put in a rising filtered note with pitchbend to make a sudden jump in bpm. not possible with turntables though, could be done with cdjs if you had three i think. |
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| Allied Nations |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
if you mixed with ableton it would be much easier as you could put in a rising filtered note with pitchbend to make a sudden jump in bpm. not possible with turntables though, could be done with cdjs if you had three i think. |
Possible with turntables, just difficult, You'd probably need some battle records and some quick fingers. |
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| Pinokio |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allied Nations
I meant you'd be mixing it in a house/trance style, not like battle style mixing.
Over a solid 5-6 hour set (especially if you are finishing the night) it's good to end on a deeper note in my opinion.
In a loong night like that, I'd probably do a pyramid.
125-130-135-130-125
maybe- who knows. Definetely possible if done right. Reading crowd is key. |
Nice
Thanks for your help. |
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| Pinokio |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
if you mixed with ableton it would be much easier as you could put in a rising filtered note with pitchbend to make a sudden jump in bpm. not possible with turntables though, could be done with cdjs if you had three i think. |
What do you mean with a Rising Filtered note?
Just a random Sound, that I would have on my third CDJ, and play it before the transition? |
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| dj_kane |
just record a note from a synth with a long release. put a low pass fitler on it and have the pitch rising for the required length then when you are going to make the change have a sudden slope on the pitch.
id post a sample though im in uni at the minute. will post one when i get home. |
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| Pinokio |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
just record a note from a synth with a long release. put a low pass fitler on it and have the pitch rising for the required length then when you are going to make the change have a sudden slope on the pitch.
id post a sample though im in uni at the minute. will post one when i get home. |
Cool
Taht's great, a sample would be nice
Thanks =) |
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| Zild |
| You can pretty much nudge the tempo up one beat per minute per track you mix without anyone noticing. Be aware of how it affects your harmonics though if you're into that. |
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| Stu Cox |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pinokio
I have a question
about dropping BPM speed, what techniques do you use?
Let'0s say I'm in 140 BPM, and I want to go to 130 BPM, do you gradually go to 130 BPM, or just in one transition can you make the change and still sound nice?
Thanks. |
The only time I ever have to do that is when I'm playing at our Student's Union so it's a wide range of dance music (house, electro, trance, drum n bass etc) and I want to drop back down to trance at the end of the night after the drum n bass, so it's a bit of a different situation because the crowd aren't so 'educated' in terms of fx and tricks (so you can get away with a lot more!)
But when I want to do that, say for example I've got a d'n'b tune playing at 180 BPM, I normally do something like (on CDJs) whack on master tempo and stick the pitch range in wide mode (+/-100%) with the tune playing on 0%, then slowly (over the course of 10 or 20 seconds) push the pitch down to about -50% (so it's playing at 90 BPM) where you start to get that grinding sound as master tempo tries to keep up, then just drop the next tune (say a trance tune at 135 BPM)...
It works of course because the transition the crowd hears is suddenly from 90 to 135 and they treat the bit before that as an effect or trick, so don't think of it as the whole set slowing down as such. But obviously that's what happens! |
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| KilldaDJ |
| yeah just like +1% on each track before u make the jump should be alright and nobody should notice it. personally id make the nudge on a buildup or something to mask the fact that the track is playing a little bit faster than it originally was. |
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| dj_kane |
sample
just did this quick to give you an idea. but basically while its rising decrease or increase the pitch then make a dramatic change at when it peaks or if you have it slowed down or sped up enough dropping a track in just after it peaks might work. ive never tried this but ive heard it effectively in sets. |
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| Dojomaster26 |
| Thanks for all of the help guys! I'm going to try a gradual pitch increase, and see if I can make that "jump" a little smoother. The "Rising Filter Note" also sounded really neat (I'll have to try that later.) |
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| Pinokio |
| quote: | Originally posted by Stu Cox
The only time I ever have to do that is when I'm playing at our Student's Union so it's a wide range of dance music (house, electro, trance, drum n bass etc) and I want to drop back down to trance at the end of the night after the drum n bass, so it's a bit of a different situation because the crowd aren't so 'educated' in terms of fx and tricks (so you can get away with a lot more!)
But when I want to do that, say for example I've got a d'n'b tune playing at 180 BPM, I normally do something like (on CDJs) whack on master tempo and stick the pitch range in wide mode (+/-100%) with the tune playing on 0%, then slowly (over the course of 10 or 20 seconds) push the pitch down to about -50% (so it's playing at 90 BPM) where you start to get that grinding sound as master tempo tries to keep up, then just drop the next tune (say a trance tune at 135 BPM)...
It works of course because the transition the crowd hears is suddenly from 90 to 135 and they treat the bit before that as an effect or trick, so don't think of it as the whole set slowing down as such. But obviously that's what happens! |
jejeje, I didn't know you also played Drum n Bass.
But that technique looks nice.
Seems like you don't beatmatch ther,e it's just a drop mixing, I think I need to practice that kind of Mixing for special situations.
Thanks |
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