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CranberryJuice
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Originally posted by dj_bas
Don't judge the US by ANYTHING that happens in the south...please lol :p


yeah but most of the cases we've been speaking of were actually from southern states :stongue:
Demoted
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Originally posted by CranberryJuice
mmh ok our teacher told us about a case concerning tennessee and i guess it sounded like it was still up going on in some part of the country


Actually, it is a continuing debate in Georgia. In fact, biology books in Cobb County here had a sticker placed on the outside that was there to reiterate how evolution is merely a theory and that there are other ideas out there other than evolution. Thankfully, I believe those stickers have been removed from the books.
Krypton
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Originally posted by CranberryJuice
mmh ok our teacher told us about a case concerning tennessee and i guess it sounded like it was still up going on in some part of the country


Yes, the creationists went back to their private schools, and the evo's back to the public schools.

They put stickers in some books though just to inform students of the ongoing nature of the 'origin of life' debate.
Arbiter
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Originally posted by dj_bas
That's because you're from Texas :p


Pfft, they drive white pickup trucks here, not vans. Yes, white specifically. I'd say white pickup trucks make up 50% of the traffic in Houston and the surrounding areas. I don't know why, and don't want to know.
CranberryJuice
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Originally posted by Arbiter
Pfft, they drive white pickup trucks here, not vans. Yes, white specifically. I'd say white pickup trucks make up 50% of the traffic in Houston and the surrounding areas. I don't know why, and don't want to know.


do the black people drive black trucks?

anyway im off to school good nite everyone
MrJiveBoJingles
Econolines are pretty popular here, too, though. And GMC Suburbans / Yukons: oh the legions of them!
Krypton
heh, it's 1.28am here:o
Lebezniatnikov
I think personal identity depends in part on the state. Texas and California seem to be much stronger identifiers than say, Indiana or Iowa. I'd think of it more as neighborhoods within a city. They're all more or less equal, but there are nice areas that people are proud to be from, and also barrios that people are proud to be from (New Jersey comes to mind). The middle seems to get lost somewhere -- I suppose there is less neighborhood pride in the average states.

As for teaching creationism in school, there are some school districts in the United States that have tried to teach it, but at this point, the federal government has never allowed it. As for the thing in Tennessee that your teacher was talking about, I'm guessing it's the Scopes Trial.

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The "Scopes Trial" (Scopes v. State, 152 Tenn. 424, 278 S.W. 57 (Tenn. 1925), often called the "Scopes Monkey Trial") pitted lawyers William Jennings Bryan and Clarence Darrow against each other (the latter representing teacher John T. Scopes) in an American court case that tested a law passed on March 13, 1925, which forbade the teaching, in any state-funded educational establishment in Tennessee, of "any theory that denies the story of the Divine Creation of man as taught in the Bible, and to teach instead that man has descended from a lower order of animals." This is often interpreted as meaning that the law forbade the teaching of any aspect of the theory of evolution. John Scopes, a high school teacher, was arrested for teaching evolution from Darwin's Origin's -Of Species.


(Wikipedia.org)


Scopes was found guilty, meaning that he was not allowed to teach evolution. But note the date (1925). Since then, this case has more or less been overturned, and the opposite is pretty much true. Now it is illegal to teach creationism and standard to teach evolution.
Zeiter
Maybe I am wrong, so you could correct myself, but is state representation very important for like Texas since they were an independant republic before joining the Union??
trunks1022
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Originally posted by CranberryJuice
hello all

i was just wondering if that for you american people u was considering yourself first of all like a represent of the state where u live or where u are from before to feel american
like do u consider yourself first "californian" and then american?

i ask u that cuz our teacher yesterday said "keep in mind that US is 50 states living together so people in each state have their own habits " since yea your country is a federal country but do u really have this feeling ?i mean that your state is really a own kind of country by itself?even if the federal state has established rules for everyone?


and an another question is it really true that in some schools in the US like elementary schools some are using books of history where it just says that the universe has been made in 7 days by god and it only explains the creation of the world through religion and not for example as well proposing others theories like the darwin theory ?

thank u


well if you want to go even further, i think of myself as a new yorker. not even new york state, but new york city. it's just a function of where you involve yourself most of the time. i think if i'm traveling to another country, that's when my nationality comes to the forefront of my mindset.

hope that helps!

MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by Zeiter
Maybe I am wrong, so you could correct myself, but is state representation very important for like Texas since they were an independant republic before joining the Union??

You'll have to specify what you mean by "important."
Zeiter
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
You'll have to specify what you mean by "important."


I'm no expert on the subject...but...I read somewhere a few years back that some groups want Texas to be independant again if they don't get more representation in political power and stuff like that...and Texas's pride is high because of somehow their nostalgic idea of an Independant Texas...or something..
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