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DJ Shibby
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Originally posted by Q5echo
no. where do you get that?


Your use of tired and myopic as adjectives, but now that you pointed it out I see that it was sarcastic. Oops.

I think the internet needs another way of denoting text as sarcastic, similar to how bold and italic can denote emphasis. Maybe a swirly underline or something. :)
Fir3start3r
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
It's not my fault you're amazingly deluded, illinformed, and haven't the slightest grip on reality. You juvenile, emotional, and irrational response means little to me.


But you just side-stepped the fact that you do, generalize a LOT when it comes to the military...

Not everyone in a uniform is the in' anti-christ; they do get dealt with you know.
Obviously not to your satisfaction though but then again, I don't see them asking you how to deal with their own s.

It's going to happen and they can't control EVERY soldier even though, yes, and you are right here, they are responsible for them.
Massive84
I doubt this guy will be excuted. Am sure something will happen to make him dissapear.

Like it or not. half of Iraq really likes this guy. And it's only becuase they actually know that it was a better place when he was in charge compared to now.

I fear if this continues that the riots will blow up even more between the 2 parties.
Q5echo
quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
I doubt this guy will be excuted. Am sure something will happen to make him dissapear.

Like it or not. half of Iraq really likes this guy. And it's only becuase they actually know that it was a better place when he was in charge compared to now.


what?
Sunsnail
quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
I doubt this guy will be excuted. Am sure something will happen to make him dissapear.

Like it or not. half of Iraq really likes this guy. And it's only becuase they actually know that it was a better place when he was in charge compared to now.

I fear if this continues that the riots will blow up even more between the 2 parties.


I'd be willing to bet $50 he will be executed
Lilith
quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
And it's only becuase they actually know that it was a better place when he was in charge compared to now.


Unless you where a Sunni, Kurd, christian, marsh arab, a political opponent, dissident, threw your lot in with the UN forces after the 1st gulf war or anyone on the boarder of Iran who got shot, gassed and blown up.
All's said and done, he's a bad bastard and good riddance either way if he sits in a cell until dead or executed.
shaolin_Z
quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Unless you where a Sunni, Kurd, christian, marsh arab, a political opponent, dissident, threw your lot in with the UN forces after the 1st gulf war or anyone on the boarder of Iran who got shot, gassed and blown up.
All's said and done, he's a bad bastard and good riddance either way if he sits in a cell until dead or executed.


Uhhh... Saddam and his Baathist regime were mostly Sunni. Most of his political opponents were Shi'ia. And eigther way, everybody infinitely more screwed now compared to when the CIA hitman and US asset Saddam was in power.
Lilith
Um, yeah... maybe I'll just say the majority muslim sect population of the country (heck I dont practice it to know the proper difference! :D)
It would have been a much better solution to just have his neighbours kick him out with some kind of diplomatic solution, in saying that though do you think it would have changed anything so to speak when it comes to the sectarian violence?
Because form what I can tell, the only reason theyre up to so much sillyness in the first place is because the jackboot was taken off their necks to let them do it. I just find it curious because there must have been some kind of seething underbelly of resentment existing with SH in power for them to be offing each other at the prolific rate theyre going about it right now.
MisterOpus1
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Originally posted by Q5echo
yes. in the larger picture (the one that matters) it does. including your Donkey party heroes. because at the end of the day, "mobile weapons labs" are not your best argument for or against invading Iraq. smart people don't focus on that.


I see - so regardless of being misled by a lying head along with a few other tall tales including meetings with al Qaeda leaders in Prague:

quote:
Postwar findings support CIA's January 2003 assessment, which judged that "the most reliable reporting casts doubt" on...an alleged meeting between Muhammad Atta and an Iraqi intelligence officer in Prague, and confirm that no such meeting occurred...Prewar assessments described reporting on the Atta lead as contradictory and unverified. In September 2002, CIA assessed that some evidence asserted that the two met, and some cast doubt on the possibility. By January 2003, CIA assessed that...they were "increasingly skeptical that Atta traveled to Prague in 2001 or met with IIS officer al-Ani." Postwar debriefings of al-Ani indicate that he had never seen or heard of Atta until after September 11, 2001, when Atta's face appeared on the news

http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf


unmanned drones that could reach the U.S. in 45 min., buying uranium in Africa (and those lovely mushroom cloud images Condi and Cheney sold us all in rather nicely):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3056626.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/internati...,909946,00.html
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/071803B.shtml
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/printer_071903A.shtml

aluminum tubes made for nuke processing:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/03/i...ner=rssuserland

True - they focus on other things such as being deliberately misled by more than just a mobile weapons lab theory. Perhaps you can explain to me some more of these in detail?

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whether the NYT is in the pocket of the Democratic party or that Judith Miller reported Chalabi as a source or that Al Queera was in Iraq is all, to this day, debatable. i don't care to but it's something that bored people will engage in when given nothing constructive to do.


Or perhaps it's what others care to run from when confronted with a point against their "librul" media conspiracy?

quote:
what your party heroes have said on the record minutes and years before the war and your vacuous claim that Bush lied, cannot be reconciled.


Ahh yes, the old - "Clinton started it" neocon line, once again. If there are Dems. who wanted invasion, believed wholeheartedly that Bush was right to invade and damn all the counterevidence that he and you neocons willfully dismissed, believed their vote authorizing Bush to invade ONLY AS A MEANS OF LAST RESORT once all other options were exhausted (kicking out weapons inspectors tends to state otherwise) and continue supporting such actions by Bush, then they rightfully have you and others to answer to for their actions. I do not nor will I ever speak for every Democrat's vote - they can only speak for themselves.

I do, however, speak for myself who at one point believed this war was worth fighting for because I was sold on the thought of having nukes and WMDs pointed at my head, and that it was a cause to disarm that man more greater than seeking out the actual man who attacked us on 9/11.

Of course once I gathered that there were no WMDs, saw how men in this Administration have been salivating over attacking Iraq for years prior to invasion, understood that we deliberately took our troops off of bin Laden and gave that fight up to the crooked warlords (whom did nothing whatsoever) and diverted our attention to this hapless dictator in Iraq instead, and deployed far too few troops to properly stabilize the country after invasion let alone give no proper marked goals to attain and reach,

well,

I guess I got a little smart-like and decided that perhaps this wasn't a brilliant idea after all? I can only hope that folks in the Democratic party felt the same. If they don't, then they will continue to have to answer for their beliefs.


quote:
nope. Clinton couldn't even take Somalia seriously, what makes you think he could have taken the Greater Middle East seriously?

now you help me out...based on such intel do you think Clinton would have lied about it?


Always glad to help you out, Q - seems to me that Clinton didn't do the invading, now did he? If he did decide to invade, he would have the exact same problems to answer for based on the intelligence (or lack thereof).

But as it seems now, who was it that willfully dismissed the counterevidence and invaded anyway?

Who's in the middle of this cluster civil war fighting for in Islamic fundamentalist regime in leagues with Iran?

Who sent too few troops to secure the borders and explosive sites like al Qa qa?

Who believed the body and vehicle armour situation was not dire enough to act on it sooner?
Fir3start3r
quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Ahh yes, the old - "Clinton started it" neocon line, once again.


Na.
That would actually infer that Clinton actually did something. :p

DevilDogUSMC
quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Ahh yes, the old - "Clinton started it" neocon line, once again./QUOTE]

Na.
That would actually infer that Clinton actually did something. :p


lol, he was too busy renting out rooms in the White House,
playing the sax, and getting head from a fat girl.
DevilDogUSMC
Saddam to be hanged by Sunday

Ex-dictator’s execution expected to be carried out by start of Eid holiday

NBC News and news services
Updated: 2 hours, 17 minutes ago

Former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, sentenced to death for his role in 148 killings in 1982, will have his sentence carried out by Sunday, NBC News reported Thursday. According to a U.S. military officer who spoke on condition of anonymity, Saddam will be hanged before the start of the Eid religious holiday, which begins at sundown Saturday.

The hanging could take place as early as Friday, NBC’s Richard Engel reported.

The U.S. military received a formal request from the Iraqi government to transfer Saddam to Iraqi authorities, NBC reported on Thursday, which is one of the final steps required before his execution. His sentence, handed down last month, ordered that he be hanged within 30 days.

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