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On what is better sound quality: Vinyl or CD ? (pg. 2)
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| oDrori |
Actually when I started getting into the arguement I was sure it was the quality of the CD vs. the tradition of the vinyl but turns out THEORETICALY vinyl can be just as good/ better in quality...
The advantages of CD include audio length, mobility, durability, availability (you can just burn it or even make abckup copies to use instead of risking the original), price is much cehapr and who knows what else.
Take in mind that putching a CD as compared to a vinyl is just like playing it as compared. The CD deck simulates a slower play whilst the turntable actually slows it down, etc etc with everything else.
Except that, DJs need as much ways to manipulate sound and vinyl are much more efficient in that.
This temporary, as CD players get better and better with the years simulating more and more effects and tricks that the turntable had to offer, plus a lot the turntable hasn't.
Just go with what you feel better with... |
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| Raptor |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spin Doctor
Vinyl has better sound quality.
Vinyl is an analogue recording. CD is a digital recording. When a tune is made and recorded (i.e. Pressed onto vinyl) the whole of this analogue wave form is captured and recorded onto vinyl. When you play a vinyl for the first ever time you are hearing as close as is humanly possible to what the producer heard when he was making the tune.
CD’s however are lower in sound quality than vinyl– this is for a very simple reason. Instead of capturing the whole wave form a sample of sound is taken every now again (In a CD’s case 44,100 times per second.) and this is converted from 1’s and 0’s to a wave form when it’s played. This is almost indistinguishable by the human ear. But the simple case is that when you listen to a CD your not listening to the actual sound but a close approximation of it.
However saying this, Vinyl and CD quality isn’t really that distinguishable form one another. The Vinyl will sound “richer” or “warmer.” The reason for this is simply that the vinyl hasn’t got parts of it’s wave form cut out. Which is why it sounds better. The only problem is that vinyl suffers terribly from dust, scratches and pops etc. |
you sum it up pretty nice. i that vinyls are still better than cds... |
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| Pjotr G |
I read a lot of BS here
First off, you can't say vinyl is a nr of hz (like CD is 44.1 khz, and DAT is max 48 khz...and vinyl...and casette tapes....) because that only applies to digital formats. So it's not like vinyl has an ininitely high frequency range or anything, and certainly not higher that CD!
Just because it's analog and you can't throw frequency rates at it doesn't mean that it's "the very sound that is put in". Inside the groove there are little bumps the needle stubles upon. These are amplified (via RIAA curve). That's the sound. And no it's not better than CD because "analog is natural sound waves" or crock like that. At least come up with a decent reason.
There is no definite answer to which is better (if there was, you could look it up somewhere). It's all about how you define quality. If quality means low S/N ratio and high frequency range, CD wins. If quality means warm sound, and very deep dynamics, vinyl wins. |
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| zapper |
To those of you who wonder why people request vinyl-rips:
There are loads of tunes that are only available on vinyl, simple as that |
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| TiestoInTheMix |
wtf? isn't the upper frequency limit for the human ear 20KHz?
vinyl DOES have a warmer and richer sound. a cd always sounds the same when you listen to it, while vinyl is always different. but on the other hand, doesn't the friction of the needle kinda mess up the grooves with time?
and as for the dust, why have i never heard of someone inventing a miniature leaf blower to put on the needle? so that when the record plays, a directed stream of air blows the dust off of the record? |
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| oDrori |
Will make the needle too heavy. Way too heavy :( Great idea though.
N E wayz, we're not talking about sound freaquency. We're tlaikng about the frequency that the sound is played from the CD. When recording into the CD, the sound is recorder every 1/44100 of a second and stored as computer information in numbers (010100 etc) then when played every 1/44100 of a sceond a tiny sound is played and what we hear is a comulative sound of all of those ticks. I think the warmer sound in vinyl is thhe result and it has a thicker sound as well (or well, describe it how you want.
Noise floor ain't that much of a botehr (dust etc.) I personally like the sound of it. |
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| DJPrototypeX |
| quote: | Originally posted by cluBBer
So why ppl looking for vinyl rips?:rolleyes: |
thas because most tracks are only released on vinyl most of the time...but iono which is better quality... |
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| Kris G |
So why ppl looking for vinyl rips?'
Because the tune will be out on vinyl for a long time before it comes out in any form on CD, as it is test pressed and promo'd on vinyl. I hope everyone else didnt go off on a tangent because they didnt understand the question... |
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| DJAhmet |
Another factor for everyone else to think about.....
When u play a CD, the data goes through a DAC (Digital to Analogue Converter) so in the end all audio gets converted back to Analogue and gets put out through the speakers in an Analogue format. And all these conversions can take some quality off CD's i would imagine.
CD's didnt take over Records because of their quality, took over cos their size.
If im wrong someone correct me... :)
All in all i guess it comes down to personel choice. ;) |
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| Pjotr G |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJAhmet
Another factor for everyone else to think about.....
When u play a CD, the data goes through a DAC (Digital to Analogue Converter) so in the end all audio gets converted back to Analogue and gets put out through the speakers in an Analogue format. And all these conversions can take some quality off CD's i would imagine.
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I don't think sound quality diminishes from that! (if there wasn't a converter there there wouldn't be any sound at all) If you'd put the signal thru a A/D again (if you'd use digital inputs in your amp, and for some strange reason go from the analog outs of your CD) And then again thru an D/A maybe you'd hear difference. I don't really think so tho...depends on the quality of the DAC's of course. |
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| Ariels |
Tracks made of samples.
Samples recorded witha 44khz freq'.
Maybe Vinyl stores greater and richer wave forms (up to 96khz)
but that's true mostly with live instruments recorded.
As for trance, made by computers supporting up to 48khz it doesn't matter cause the CD contains the same waveforms as the original track. |
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| Fettster |
| I've heard vinyl either has ridges along the side or along the bottom of the "groove" or track. Does anyone know which is better, or why one method is used/preferred over another? |
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