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Sean Tyas Interview (pg. 9)
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| paulandrews |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
He may be right about this, but laziness comes in different forms. There's the laziness of just not making any tracks at all, and then there's the laziness of taking a "proven formula" and making tracks that all sound the ing same. I'd rather that people adopt the first form of laziness than the second. |
The point is in who says that. |
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| dj_bas |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
still you live in your sad internet world coming up with useless comments. think ill live you house lovers to enjoy this thread as ive better things to do with my time. :rolleyes: |
So because we don't like Tyas, we're all house lovers? I'm pretty sure Mr. Mystery doesn't like house. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
still you live in your sad internet world coming up with useless comments. think ill live you house lovers to enjoy this thread as ive better things to do with my time. :rolleyes: |
Hah, theres the last dumbass argument that was missing from this thread. "If you're bashing a trance producer its cause you love house"
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Yeah sorry, Mystery isnt into house much :p try again? |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
While I agree, it's tough when you make a living doing this. You can't make a lot of money by only make a track here or there. |
Yep, I dont blame the guy for trying to put out alot of . But we should be allowed to call it :p |
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| dj_kane |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
...seems to infer that having alot of releases means you are good. Yeah I'll give credit where it is due, but just because you have a ton of releases does not mean you're a great artist...in fact, the opposite is often true... |
have to reply to this.
where does that insinuate that i think tyas is a genius? given someone credit for having signed tracks does not mean that. a genius to me is mozart or beethoven. he makes generic tracks but if the clubbers like it and it sells then why not. thats his choice hes making a living out of it and fair play to him.
edit: im not a fan of tyas as ive already posted bash whoever you want i couldnt give a . my main point in this thread was that it made no sense what you were bashing him for. |
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| nefardec |
I had a long conversation last night with a friend about the decadent state that dance music has taken. I personally am quite depressed with music and spend most of my time listening to sets from 1990-1996 to cheer me up. Anyways, one of the things we talked about was the narcissistic and self-indulgent culture that has supplanted the original dance culture. Not to say it was never self indulgent, but the decadence and the narcissism I think is a newer phenomenon that has the effect of making the whole thing into a charade. I have felt this going to large clubs and events recently for sure. Actually every major event I go to I connect to less and less, which is pretty depressing at the time.
Anyways to relate this to the interview, I think the mentality one should make music just because one has the equipment is quite responsible for downturn in quality genre-wide. Sean Tyas has the energy for what? I would call reworking the lazy end of the production spectrum and why doesn't he try making an artist album that does something for trance. I think the decadent culture has become all about instant gratification, and this is what many of Sean Tyas's tracks, ASOT sets, recent PvD sets, recent oakenfold sets, tiesto tracks, do for people. The scope of the buildup and the climax shouldn't be within the track, like it has become, it should be over the course of the set, or the night. The music has become convienent, without actually improving the quality of life...
I don't care how much energy he thinks he has, it doesn't come across like it does in early trance sets and old school house sets.
Inn a sense the market-leaders are doing a good job, they are producing tracks that are "successful", and "good" in the popular sense. But what needs to be examined I think is not so much the producers and DJs, but the culture, which I think has changed a lot and inspires DJs and producers to come out who respond to this culture of instant gratification and decadence. People in general need to broaden the scope of what they listen to and I think it's important to listen to the roots as well. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
still you live in your sad internet world coming up with useless comments. think ill live you house lovers to enjoy this thread as ive better things to do with my time. :rolleyes: |
Yeah, I just love house, me.
Fail :stongue: |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
have to reply to this.
where does that insinuate that i think tyas is a genius? given someone credit for having signed tracks does not mean that. a genius to me is mozart or beethoven. he makes generic tracks but if the clubbers like it and it sells then why not. thats his choice hes making a living out of it and fair play to him.
edit: im not a fan of tyas as ive already posted bash whoever you want i couldnt give a . my main point in this thread was that it made no sense what you were bashing him for. |
I dont see where I've bashed him anywhere in this thread. I thought the interview was funny if anything :p
I'm not a fan of his stuff at all, I think most of his tracks are pretty , but like you say, there are clubbers who eat it up, and I say more power to him, same with most DJs I dont like, they play for a market, and if there is a market of people who dig their tracks and will pay money, then cool beans for the DJ. But we are certainly allowed, on a site where trance music discussion is put first and foremost, to say we dont like his stuff, aren't we? We'd never get anywhere without critisism, I certainly would hate DJing if everyone told me I was perfect all the time :p |
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| dj_kane |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
I dont see where I've bashed him anywhere in this thread. I thought the interview was funny if anything :p
I'm not a fan of his stuff at all, I think most of his tracks are pretty , but like you say, there are clubbers who eat it up, and I say more power to him, same with most DJs I dont like, they play for a market, and if there is a market of people who dig their tracks and will pay money, then cool beans for the DJ. But we are certainly allowed, on a site where trance music discussion is put first and foremost, to say we dont like his stuff, aren't we? We'd never get anywhere without critisism, I certainly would hate DJing if everyone told me I was perfect all the time :p |
exactly.
but i said give the guy credit as hes making money out of it. id give dj sammy credit as hes making a mint even no i dispise him. just because i said give him credit everyone thinks im a tyas fan. even no i only no one of his tracks because it was played constantly over a few months. |
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| nefardec |
So 'underground music' is about making money?
Personally I think making money at a day job and producing tracks at 4 AM is more 'underground' and closer to the spirit that it carried with it in the beginning. Why are we so concerned about the marketability of music and not the musicality of music? |
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| Clovis |
I hate both extremes, those who think anyone giving praise is just "some fanboy" and those who think people giving solid critisism are just "elitist haters".
I've been on this forum long enough to recognize that people will have alot of varying opinions contrary to mine, and that I better just accept that. |
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
So 'underground music' is about making money?
Personally I think making money at a day job and producing tracks at 4 AM is more 'underground' and closer to the spirit that it carried with it in the beginning. Why are we so concerned about the marketability of music and not the musicality of music? |
Good post, and the one before that aswell. |
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