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can anyone post samples of quick cut transitions?
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| hiram |
| ive dabbled in this concept but i cant get it to sound right. only done so about two times correctly. maybe it doesnt work with all songs? |
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| Boomer187 |
| it doesn't work with all songs. but if you do it right i am sure you can make it sound cool for most. but yea, just find the right tracks and the right time to cut. |
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| starboy |
| About 16 beats or so before a phrase with the cued track's bass all the way down slowly bring up the fader to the top, and on the begining of the next phrase, cut the live track and snap up the bass on the cued track at the same time. doesn't always sound good but you get the idea, thats just what i do. |
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| Inertia |
has a lot to do with when you cut as well. normally, if the track you cut in has a big BANG sound when it hits, it will sound good.
cuts can also sound good if the playing track currently is weak, and you cut into something heavier. or try killing the bass for a bit, before you cut.
or... try to cut in your incoming track a few times, switching back to the current one, while keeping the incoming track without bass. then, when you do the final cut, throw in the bass EQ as well (easier to do with the crossfader than the volume faders)
i'd record something, but my mixer is currently wayyy too far from my PC.if no one has by the weekend, i will. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
has a lot to do with when you cut as well. normally, if the track you cut in has a big BANG sound when it hits, it will sound good.
cuts can also sound good if the playing track currently is weak, and you cut into something heavier. or try killing the bass for a bit, before you cut.
or... try to cut in your incoming track a few times, switching back to the current one, while keeping the incoming track without bass. then, when you do the final cut, throw in the bass EQ as well (easier to do with the crossfader than the volume faders)
i'd record something, but my mixer is currently wayyy too far from my PC.if no one has by the weekend, i will. |
Or if the track you're mixing in has a small break handy after the intro. |
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| nefardec |
the hard cut: I would say use it sparingly.
PvD does way too many hard cuts in my opinion, mainly because he has to given that every other track is an explosive 'banger' and they sound like on top of eachother. I think it tears a set apart and makes it predictable.
However, used in the perfect place it can make someone themselves.
I think for hard cuts it really depends on the track that you're going to cut into. It has to have an intensity and style that merits the immediate termination of previous sound. For instance some tracks have little bar-long vaccuums of sound followed by a furious bulging section. In any case, I think if you're going to do a hard cut, it should be for drama's sake, for grabbing the listener or dancer by the balls, and like I said, it should be used on a limited basis, maybe building and building anticipation and suspense in a breakdown and then cut out a the perfect moment. |
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| SPAWNmaster |
I've uploaded a sample for the topic creator to get an idea of how you would do a quick cut in good taste. this sample is part of my latest mix (you can find it in the dj promotion section) and i did it PVD style like nefardec was talking about...essentially I had 2 bangin tracks that would conflict if I overlapped them even though they're perfectly harmonic so i added a little flash and bang and made a quick cut and it sounds fine. cheers.
CLICK HERE FOR THE SAMPLE |
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| Trance Android |
Hi SPAWN, that sounds really nice. Are you doing that effect before the new track slams in using Ableton? It's similar to a trick I keep hearing that I can't replicate at home. I can come close (ish!) using wah, I've been meaning to post a sample & ask how it was done for some time :)
Thanks :) |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
| Hard cuts of 4x4 beats going into breaks or vice versa can sound ing awesome. |
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| Inertia |
Spawn, nice sample, although i think the track you're cutting in is a bit too loud in comparison to the previous, making the cut a bit violent. or maybe it's just me.
otherwise, very nicely illustrated. as heard on this sample, you can combine cuts with fades for more options. when i layer a track over another, slowly fading it in, i sometimes have them both playing full blast. i like to switch the bass to my incoming track, so it takes dominance, and the outgoing one is in the background. cut the dominant track for a bit, and then cut it back in, on time of course, for a nice teasing effect. |
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| SPAWNmaster |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
Spawn, nice sample, although i think the track you're cutting in is a bit too loud in comparison to the previous, making the cut a bit violent. or maybe it's just me. |
thats the point, it gets the dance floor going. also it happens to be a part in my mix thats been building towards up until that point if that makes any sense. |
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| Inertia |
yah, i know, but if it were a slight bit quieter it would be smoother, while still achieving that effect, IMO.
then again, i am a level freak, and try to have ALL my tracks on the exact same marker on the VU meter :p |
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