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pkcRAISTLIN
good idea. helps cut down on how much you smoke of an evening. helps with the quitting too. only had 3 today :D
Philby
pfft atmosphere. maybe if you are watching a horror movie or something it would look good with smoke or fog all around. what do you mean life prop? is it like a security blanket now or something? i do not understand how you can voluntarily put that inside you. especially with the bushfires lately. you enjoy waking up and stepping outside to smell the smoke and not being able to see?
Dj_Es-Dva
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
good idea. helps cut down on how much you smoke of an evening. helps with the quitting too. only had 3 today :D

also depends what your smoking :thepirate
Light The Fuse
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Originally posted by Philby
pfft atmosphere. maybe if you are watching a horror movie or something it would look good with smoke or fog all around. what do you mean life prop? is it like a security blanket now or something? i do not understand how you can voluntarily put that inside you. especially with the bushfires lately. you enjoy waking up and stepping outside to smell the smoke and not being able to see?


yeah it is a security blanket in a way - 1 main reason to quit. dont get me wrong smoking harms 2 many people that smoke and 2 many people that dont....but life prop like in movies when actors use props...smoking is a prop that displays how u are feeling in a lot of ways but thats not the point..the point is at the end of the day smoking is bad - and the people doing it realise, like me that it is bad. but once u do have that security blanket, its not that easy to stop.

anyways - all im saying dont be so hard on smokers cos yeah its distgusting and it kills, but most smokers know that...but it still feels real good.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Dj_Es-Dva
also depends what your smoking :thepirate


philbs only smokes pole.
Philby
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Originally posted by Light The Fuse
yeah it is a security blanket in a way - 1 main reason to quit. dont get me wrong smoking harms 2 many people that smoke and 2 many people that dont....but life prop like in movies when actors use props...smoking is a prop that displays how u are feeling in a lot of ways but thats not the point..the point is at the end of the day smoking is bad - and the people doing it realise, like me that it is bad. but once u do have that security blanket, its not that easy to stop.

anyways - all im saying dont be so hard on smokers cos yeah its distgusting and it kills, but most smokers know that...but it still feels real good.


like in movies when actors use props? so next james bond movie 007 will be shooting at the bad guys with a cigarette instead of a pistol?

how do you feel when you are holding a cigarette compared to when you are not?

don't be too hard on smokers because they know it is disgusting and it kills but it feels real good? so we shouldn't be hard on people like pol pot and saddam hussain and adolf hitler because they know they killed and it was disgusting but it made them feel good? bit of a stretch but that's what you are saying...

maybe it isn't that easy to stop, but it's your fault for getting to that stage in the first place.
Light The Fuse
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Originally posted by Philby
like in movies when actors use props? so next james bond movie 007 will be shooting at the bad guys with a cigarette instead of a pistol?

how do you feel when you are holding a cigarette compared to when you are not?

don't be too hard on smokers because they know it is disgusting and it kills but it feels real good? so we shouldn't be hard on people like pol pot and saddam hussain and adolf hitler because they know they killed and it was disgusting but it made them feel good? bit of a stretch but that's what you are saying...

maybe it isn't that easy to stop, but it's your fault for getting to that stage in the first place.


its aint that simple philbz...smokers are hurting themsleves more than anyone else unlike polpot and hussien. im sure u know how there is the whole nature vs nuture thing right? well i think smoking is a product solely of nuture and well u cannot blame people for the way they are nutured.

yes it is a psychological crutch for people that feel pain (no matter how big or how small - this is when u light up)...but dont forget that people light up when they hear/see/feel something that aint good. and thats why they smoke... they seen some bad and found that stickn some fire in their mouth gives em something to lean on when they feel that pain.

hahah i said crutch
Philby
maybe 50 years ago it wasn't that simple, maybe 40 or even 30 years ago it wasn't that simple when there wasn't the same level of information or education around as there is now, but now it is that simple. i get upset, ty, down in the dumps like anyone else, i generally sit in my room or sit by myself, maybe i'll get some chocolate and then feel better later. that would be my nuturing. i don't get a cigarette and light it up because i know what it does to me, what it can do in the future and what it does to people around. why do you choose a cigarette as your crutch? why not chocolate? chocolate doesn't hurt anyone :D
Dj_Es-Dva
Apart from people who are allergic to chocolate.

Says teh woman who od'd on water :haha:
Light The Fuse
U CANNOT EXPLAIN THIS TO SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER SMOKED.

i get no high/buzz from smoking.

there are just times where it feels right for me to smoke.
i dunno maybe it was cos i had a mother who smoked - then quit - then smoked again after my dad died.
or maybe it was cos all my mates smoked.
or maybe it was cos it was naughty and well i like naughty things..

I still dont know why i started.

in the end happens and u get an addiction - and an addiction is not an easy thing to break and should be respected as a part of who someone is.

according to the celestine prophecy i wont be accending to greatness in this life cos i smoke...
so there ya go - and in some strange way thats why i wanna quit - but even if i quit for 20 years and bumped into another smoker i wouldnt crack the s cos they sparked up a durrie in front of me. :|

Fledz
I thought the smoking laws were national, not governed by each state?

Obviously not. In NSW we've had that for 18 months already and in July, there will be no smoking inside, anywhere. Currently, gaming rooms are ok and an establishment must not have more than 25% of it available for smoking.

I love the new laws :D
Philby
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Originally posted by Light The Fuse
U CANNOT EXPLAIN THIS TO SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER SMOKED.

i get no high/buzz from smoking.


THEN WHY THE HELL DO YOU DO IT?!?!?!?!?!!???????????????????????


at your age you KNOW what it is going to do to you and that you can get addicted it. at school you were TOLD what the harmful effects are. you like naughty things? jump the fence to some grumpy old mans house and knick a garden gnome or something. your mates did it? so you have to do it to? you can't stand being apart from them and not smoking? if your mates said "hey jules we are going to run and jump off that cliff over there" you say "sweet! i'm in!"?? why can it feel right to smoke? if your mother did it then maybe that can be a part of it, i don't know much about genetics and if you can pick up a habit like that.

happens and you get addicted? well thats right happens and that's your and i won't respect it as part of who you are, or who anyone is. it feels good when i jerk off. sometimes maybe it feels right, it makes me happy for a litte while. i dont do it 5 times a day every single day. i don't get addicted to it. i won't believe that after one smoke you get addicted and it's all downhill from there. if your body gets used to that substance and starts craving it when you don't have it then you must have been putting it in there for a while. maybe it is hard to break out of but if you let it get to that point well like you said happens.


if you want to light a cigarette well fine go ahead. i will get pissed off if i want to that someone does it in front of me because i don't want to inhale your toxic .
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