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Long rant. Job related. Need to vent.
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| lopi |
So I've worked for my company as an independent agent for the last 3 1/2 years on and off as an independent agent more so lately than ever before, and I got a temporary cross promotion as the recruiter for the London office. Now recruiters are on the head office pay roll, and get benefits and all that jazz.
Up until today I was really happy with the way everything was going, and was planning to move to London within the next month. I was thinking this is going to be great, I'll have deals coming in and my salary from my recruiting job and things are going to work out awesome, I'll be able to get a nice place with my girlfriend Britt, and save up some money too.
Well today this lady from head office calls me and is like I need you to fill out these forms. I didn't have my SIN card here, but I knew they had it on file in my independent agent file. I had spoken with the head of recruiting in Ottawa earlier this week, and the national who is based out of Kitchener who was my boss before, and our regional here in London, and none of them have ever made any reference to there being ANY problem with me both writing deals to help jump start the London office and make some extra cash on the side, and help build up points for the next trip(I just qualified for the last trip which is to Jamaica in April which is when I would be resigning as recruiter and a new girl would start in my position... the whole me quitting in April is an arrangement that my regional and I had from the beginning)
So any ways I call this lady at head office about my SIN number, and she's like "oh you're an agent too? Oh yeah I'm going to have to talk to some one about that before I can send you the papers"
Then I start having a bit of a trip out, because this could potentially because like a 1/3 of my expected income.
She calls back and says that I'm going to have to make a choice as to what I want to do. Either take the recruiting job and resign as an agent, or the other way around, because there is conflict of interest, because apparently I get info as a recruiter that agents aren’t supposed to have. In my whole time here, there has never been one thing that I have seen the recruiter get that agents aren’t allowed to know other than compliance about other agents and weekly numbers... Like that would affect me writing deals. How the would me knowing that Joe wad got a complaint against them, or that the company wrote X amount of deals in the last week effect how/why/when/how many deals I write.
Now, that said, of course I want the recruiting job. Especially now that its winter. On the flip side of that if I resign, I lose my ing trip to Jamaica which I've been excited for four months, and worked hard to get.
I'm so livid right now; I don't know what to do with myself. I seriously want to kick myself really hard in the ass for not calling someone else about my SIN number. If I hadn't called that bitch back, she would have never known and it would have been fine.
I called our liaison at head office, before she called back the second time, and he said he doesn't know what’s going to go on but that as far as he knows it would be conflict of interest, even if I'm writing under a different office, and handing in deals in a different office, but that he's heard of it being worked around before. However I highly doubt that now that she's gone and talked to the VP of marketing that we're going to be able to work around anything.
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| TranceGrooves |
that is ing bull.
i do somewhat of similar work. i am an agent and a trainer. when not doing hiring and training i go out and make sales. more cash for the company and ofcourse more cash for me.
the company shud not have a problem with this because you are making them money. i do not understand how it can be confilct of interest. if u r recruiting in london and doing sales in london then why does it matter to this lady or anyone else.
i dont get it. |
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| lopi |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGrooves
that is ing bull.
i do somewhat of similar work. i am an agent and a trainer. when not doing hiring and training i go out and make sales. more cash for the company and ofcourse more cash for me.
the company shud not have a problem with this because you are making them money. i do not understand how it can be confilct of interest. if u r recruiting in london and doing sales in london then why does it matter to this lady or anyone else.
i dont get it. |
Not only that but it helps me when I'm recruiting, because I'm up to date on whats going on and who we are looking for and stuff. I don't know, the head of recruiting is on a mission to up LOL. she's pissed because she also thinks that me being an active agent helps the recruiting process and office stats and all that. |
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| Cosmic Fur |
| You need a blog. |
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| Misanthrope |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
You need a blog. |
she's on purerave and has a blog.
lopi needs to be loved.
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| Misanthrope |
| quote: | Originally posted by lopi
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Ok, I tried to understand what's going on.
Could you not go to Jamaica another time?
OR
Could you not resign and re-apply to this same place again?
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| lopi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
You need a blog. |
I have one on PR, but I needed to vent, and get feedback from people who arn't 16 and have their heads in the clouds about boys, , weed, drugs, and happy hardcore.
| quote: | Originally posted by Misanthrope
she's on purerave and has a blog.
lopi needs to be loved.
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Thnx Mona. Although you should be careful... Someone might figure out that you're actually a nice person off the boards.
| quote: | Originally posted by Misanthrope
Ok, I tried to understand what's going on.
Could you not go to Jamaica another time?
OR
Could you not resign and re-apply to this same place again?
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Its a company trip for agents right? you get points per deal you hand in. They send you on 3 paid vacations a year, if you qualify for them, so you have to hand in a certain number of deals in to make the trip. This one coming up is to Jamaica, and the company is sending a huge chunk of agents and paying for them to stay at Ocho Rios Resort.
If I resign I resign my trip too. |
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| TranceGrooves |
| quote: | Originally posted by lopi
Not only that but it helps me when I'm recruiting, because I'm up to date on whats going on and who we are looking for and stuff. I don't know, the head of recruiting is on a mission to up LOL. she's pissed because she also thinks that me being an active agent helps the recruiting process and office stats and all that. |
YES>
but in the big picture who is getting the most gain from this?
the company. what do they care if the recruiter makes the sale or the sale comes from the people recruited. i mean if u r making sales u r setting example for people u r training.
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quitting and re applying is not a good idea. will loose seniority and everything by quitting. and if u quit why re apply? might as well go work somewhere else. |
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| EvilTree |
Ok. Exactly what do you do Jenn?
And stop grinding that axe. You might hurt someone with it ;) |
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| Misanthrope |
| quote: | Originally posted by lopi
Thnx Mona. Although you should be careful... Someone might figure out that you're actually a nice person off the boards. |
:haha: shhhh.
Sorry, I couldn't help. :/ |
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| lopi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Misanthrope
:haha: shhhh.
Sorry, I couldn't help. :/ |
You did hun.
Thank you.
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
Ok. Exactly what do you do Jenn?
And stop grinding that axe. You might hurt someone with it ;) |
I work for a Gas/Hydro marketing company. |
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| TranceGrooves |
| quote: | Originally posted by lopi
I work for a Gas/Hydro marketing company. |
that goes door to door? |
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