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| lowski |
has any one ever been to one i saw an add for alchemea college and piontblanklondon.com do you guys know anything about these. if anyone has gone i would love to hear about your experiance, and what you are doing with what you learned know.
i have played keyboards, guitar, drums, and bass for years and i know how to write songs. ive done rock hip hop, and trance and breaks. i can use reason3 pretty good. and i think i could be pretty good if i learned how to use some gear like logic 7 . so with previous knowledge like that, would one of these schools be something i should go to?. i am very serious about writing music.
my friend said i could just pay for an engineer to help learn the software, but i dont think he knows to much about all this.
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| echosystm |
I know a few people who have done them that say it was a complete waste of money. The only courses worth taking are the full on mastering/recording courses, because the equipment is too expensive to buy yourself.
IMO, if you have the internet and a few good books you're much better off. |
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| Fledz |
| Yea, most of the software stuff you can learn by yourself. The only ones worth going to are the 6 month + courses where you learn how to mix and master (as echosystem said) properly, but they are very expensive. You do get a proper diploma or degree though. |
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| Zombie0729 |
| i took an electro-acoustic class at my college and i knew more than my professor. however there are some "mixing rules" that should be known by all and sometimes those things dont' get pointed out without proper instruction. |
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| michaelconway |
| what about if you want to get into post production for movies? I have been putting off going for the only reason that im scared that I won't have the ears for it. 8 years of djing will do that to anyones ears im sure, and ofcourse I didn't take care of my ears. but if anyone has gone, is it good for learning how to do post production work? |
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| Freak |
| Strike SAE off the list too... total joke (am more than qualified to say that- having personally been there, unlike most who endorse the place blindly) |
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| Existozip |
| quote: | Originally posted by Freak
Strike SAE off the list too... total joke (am more than qualified to say that- having personally been there, unlike most who endorse the place blindly) |
Why is that mate? I am just asking because I was considering taking their 2 year course on Electronic music production and mixing/mastering...
According to their website they do teach you neve/SSl/pro tools ect.
I don't want to second guess you or anything (since you have attended that school and I haven't )
It could be a ''scam'' like so many of these schools ....
I am just researching the place before I give them my money... |
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| Akazi |
well, i took a 9 month course at point blank london, and all i can say is that i dont regret it! they tought me alot ( i didnt even know what midi was....)first three months were basic, then intermediate then advanced. Teach you alot of good stuff and alot of complicated stuff too(eg. building your own stuff in reaktor,mixing and bit of mastering!)
apart of that, you will get to meet alot of very interesting and likeminded people and the tutors sometimes tell all kinds of "insider" scene storys, which are pretty informative too.
Its a good experience deffinately! |
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| lowski |
| yeah i think i might just save my money, thanks for the insight everyone |
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| A1C |
Ok, I see these threads all the time, so I'm gonna chime in here.
I recently graduated from a audio recording school. The school is accredited by the state and national boards for education....So, it's not some sham place that hands you a piece of paper for nothing. They've earned their ability to call themselves accredited after years of meeting state and federal standards.
Here's my spiel-
It's funny when a lot of people say that if you just read tutorials that you'll magically learn how to produce and engineer. First off, producing isn't the same concept as engineering. Audio recording school prepares you to engineer. To operate gear... to think in the mindset of a professional who is aiming to capture audio and reproduce at the highest level of quality available given the access to time, money and equipment that you have. Producers in the professional audio realm and typically people who have worked as engineers for quite a while or who have been in the right place and the right time and had some natural ability to construct tracks worthy for commercial release in some music market.
It's one thing to learn Ableton, and dial in a few compressor settings and say that you know what you're doing, but it's another thing to make money from your skills. School offers you the chance to put your hands on professional grade audio gear and receive instruction from people who have made a career out of audio. My instructors were engineers who have won Grammys and have platinum record sales under their belts. I learned to work SSL and Neve consoles... to run Pro Tools HD.. and to even produce audio for Film and TV.
Now, I work at a post production studio in Hollywood where all we do is sound design and sound editing for major feature films.
The point here is that there are many many people in the industry who have earned their way to the top after years and years of self learning and hard work. I have a lot of respect for those guys.. i work with them every day, so I hear the stories of how they made it work. Or, there are those like me who went to school, and had concepts summarized and taught by professionals and then essentially "bought" my way into a job. Any school is all about buying your way into a job. You pay someone to teach you, then you go and put yourself in the field having had some introduction to concepts and applications.
But, for those who think school is a waste of time... you guys are wrong on so many levels. The goal is to find a program that fits who you are as a person and if it means something to you, then the money isn't an object. I wanted to pursue audio professionally, so that's what i'm doing... if you just want to sit around and make beats in your bedroom, then yea, I would invest in a nice project studio and teach myself... And i'm not knocking making beats in your room.. it's great to have a hobby and a passion and a lot of great EDM is made in somebody's bedroom...
Bottom Line: It all depends on the person. :) |
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| michaelconway |
| quote: | Originally posted by A1C
Ok, I see these threads all the time, so I'm gonna chime in here.
I recently graduated from a audio recording school. The school is accredited by the state and national boards for education....So, it's not some sham place that hands you a piece of paper for nothing. They've earned their ability to call themselves accredited after years of meeting state and federal standards.
Here's my spiel-
It's funny when a lot of people say that if you just read tutorials that you'll magically learn how to produce and engineer. First off, producing isn't the same concept as engineering. Audio recording school prepares you to engineer. To operate gear... to think in the mindset of a professional who is aiming to capture audio and reproduce at the highest level of quality available given the access to time, money and equipment that you have. Producers in the professional audio realm and typically people who have worked as engineers for quite a while or who have been in the right place and the right time and had some natural ability to construct tracks worthy for commercial release in some music market.
It's one thing to learn Ableton, and dial in a few compressor settings and say that you know what you're doing, but it's another thing to make money from your skills. School offers you the chance to put your hands on professional grade audio gear and receive instruction from people who have made a career out of audio. My instructors were engineers who have won Grammys and have platinum record sales under their belts. I learned to work SSL and Neve consoles... to run Pro Tools HD.. and to even produce audio for Film and TV.
Now, I work at a post production studio in Hollywood where all we do is sound design and sound editing for major feature films.
The point here is that there are many many people in the industry who have earned their way to the top after years and years of self learning and hard work. I have a lot of respect for those guys.. i work with them every day, so I hear the stories of how they made it work. Or, there are those like me who went to school, and had concepts summarized and taught by professionals and then essentially "bought" my way into a job. Any school is all about buying your way into a job. You pay someone to teach you, then you go and put yourself in the field having had some introduction to concepts and applications.
But, for those who think school is a waste of time... you guys are wrong on so many levels. The goal is to find a program that fits who you are as a person and if it means something to you, then the money isn't an object. I wanted to pursue audio professionally, so that's what i'm doing... if you just want to sit around and make beats in your bedroom, then yea, I would invest in a nice project studio and teach myself... And i'm not knocking making beats in your room.. it's great to have a hobby and a passion and a lot of great EDM is made in somebody's bedroom...
Bottom Line: It all depends on the person. :) |
thats exactly what I was looking for, what school did you go to ? LARS? I used to live in Burbank, and im going to be moving back very soon to hopefully go to school there |
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| A1C |
| quote: | Originally posted by michaelconway
thats exactly what I was looking for, what school did you go to ? LARS? I used to live in Burbank, and im going to be moving back very soon to hopefully go to school there |
www.cras.org |
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