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Ahmadinejad is losing his country
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| LazFX |
You know you're losing your touch as the president of Iran when people even more conservative than you are thinking you should tone it down a bit....
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Iran's beleaguered president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is facing a powerful challenge from his fiercest political rival for control of the country's nuclear and economic policies.
Hashemi Rafsanjani, a pragmatic conservative defeated by Mr Ahmadinejad in the 2005 presidential election, believes Iran may have to yield to western demands to suspend uranium enrichment to save the country's Islamic system from collapse.
He is trying to persuade the country's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who has the final say in state matters, that further negotiations are essential to avoid a potentially disastrous conflict with the US or Israel.
Mr Rafsanjani demonstrated his growing influence over the nuclear issue in a meeting yesterday with Britain's ambassador to Tehran, Geoffrey Adams. He told Mr Adams that Iran was willing to submit to "any verifying measures by the responsible authorities" to prove the peaceful nature of its nuclear programme, which many in the west suspect is aimed at making atomic bombs.
Diplomatic sources said Mr Rafsanjani appeared to be offering full verification only as part of a negotiated future deal, rather than immediate access. Iran said this week it had denied access to 38 inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency, the UN's nuclear watchdog.
Mr Rafsanjani's conciliatory stance contrasts with Mr Ahmadinejad's defiant opposition to suspending uranium enrichment. Many have blamed the president's rhetoric for a recent UN security resolution imposing sanctions on Iran for its nuclear activities.
Mr Ahmadinejad faced down his critics this week by vowing to continue his policies and declaring that 10 more UN resolutions would not deny Iran its nuclear rights. He told state television that "wise voices" in America would prevent the Bush administration from launching a military strike against Iran.
Mr Rafsanjani, a former president and pillar of Iran's political establishment, disagrees and is understood to have formed a committee overseeing the nuclear negotiations. The committee will assess whether the country's international standing has been damaged by Mr Ahmadinejad's radical statements.
"Before the sanctions, Rafsanjani hoped Iran could obtain its enrichment objectives through mutual understanding with the west. But now he thinks we have reached a dangerous point and that a step should be taken backwards in the hope that two forward can be taken later," said Mohammad Atrianfar, a respected political commentator and associate of Mr Rafsanjani.
"He doesn't see negotiation as a sign of weakness. He wants to limit the impact of the sanctions and get Mr Khamenei and the government to accept that if Iran faces mounting sanctions or a military attack or any crisis which damages the economic life of the people, then there is a possibility of the whole system collapsing."
The Guardian reported last week that Mr Ahmadinejad's authority was under pressure from critical MPs and an increasingly concerned Mr Khamenei. The re-emergence of Mr Rafsanjani contradicts widely held assumptions that his presidential defeat had diminished his influence. His increasing prominence comes after he won the most votes in elections to the experts' assembly, an important clerical body.
Mr Rafsanjani this week criticised Mr Ahmadinejad's government for failing to privatise state enterprises, a policy agreed under Iran's constitution and supported by Mr Khamenei. He said Iran's economy would be overtaken by poorer neighbouring countries if prized national assets remained under state control. Mr Ahmadinejad, who has promised to redistribute wealth and alleviate poverty, favours a bigger government role in the economy.
Mr Rafsanjani's comments added to widespread anger over Mr Ahmadinejad's economic policies, which have been widely denounced for stoking inflation and failing to halt unemployment.
Supposedly like-minded MPs in the fundamentalist-dominated parliament have launched a petition summoning the president to answer questions. It has gathered 63 signatures and needs nine more to be effective. Meanwhile, proceedings are underway to impeach four of his ministers accused of incompetence. Insiders say there is enough anger at Mr Ahmadinejad for a majority of MPs to want to impeach him and remove him from office.
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Excellent...... it looks like the world over is getting tired of little men in cheap suits trying to screw it up. Feels good to know that Iran is not all full of idiots like Ahmadinejad. Just like America is not full of Bush lovers, well at least 68% of the American public hates bush
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| star-traveller |
No source, No link nothing.
did you write it by yourself? 'cause it looks like just another piece of junk from a city tabloid. |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by star-traveller
No source, No link nothing.
did you write it by yourself? 'cause it looks like just another piece of junk from a city tabloid. |
I fixed it, and OMG!! Its not even from the US :eek:
You just can't deal, you so much want the US to invade Iran, don't you? Just so you can come here and get off with the other anti-us posters. Grab the jergans and get all lubed up with Cyrus and HardcorePrancer. :toothless |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by star-traveller
No source, No link nothing.
did you write it by yourself? 'cause it looks like just another piece of junk from a city tabloid. |
Really now - what the hell?
Regardless, I read something similar to this a few days back. I think if anything this is a very telling sign. If anything we should allow this country to unfold on its own, rather than consider invasion, total destruction, total destabilization, chaos, death and civil strife, and then rebuilding via our country's own corporate construction workers ONLY while the country's unemployment rate and utilities infrastructure gets shot to hell, considering any "nukular" capability is at least 8-10 years away by our intelligence reports.
But then again, our King knows best for us little American children, and we should never question his divine wisdom or military strategery. It's not "my war", and I need to stop pretending that it is.......... |
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| Krypton |
| This is an excellent development. Admadinijad may be the Iranian version of Mr. Bush. Perhaps the same percentage of people in Iran don't like their president as some here don't like Bush. |
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| Dopey |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
This is an excellent development. Admadinijad may be the Iranian version of Mr. Bush. Perhaps the same percentage of people in Iran don't like their president as some here don't like Bush. |
Bush is hard to beat in the lowest ratings race. |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
This is an excellent development. Admadinijad may be the Iranian version of Mr. Bush. Perhaps the same percentage of people in Iran don't like their president as some here don't like Bush. |
that is so true! I for one welcome this news, once El Busho gets out office, I really hope this country will stop seeing others as "evil" WTF!! Axis of Evil?? ha ha, yes there are some ed up rulers out there, but I really want to believe that everyone in this world besides the politcians want to just live in peace. that is a hope, I hang on to, makes me wake up and face the day. |
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| Lateralus |
| Admadinijad is just a genuine . Hes not a constructive politician at all. Its nice to see theyre not buying bull at full price in Iran. |
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| Omega_M |
As a side note, Ahmadinejad comes off as an ordinary timid looking guy. Hardly looks like a powerful leader of a defiant country.
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
As a side note, Ahmadinejad comes off as an ordinary timid looking guy. Hardly looks like a powerful leader of a defiant country.
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funny, he looks like my Uncle Domingo on my Dad's Side, lol |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
As a side note, Ahmadinejad comes off as an ordinary timid looking guy. Hardly looks like a powerful leader of a defiant country.
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Ahmadinejad HAS NO POWER in Iran,is that so hard to understand? remember Khatami?the president before Ahmadinejad?he was a conservative and people liked him alot,he promised lots of changes,but since he had no power just like any other president in Iran he couldnt achieve any of them.
The real power in Iran comes from Ayatollah Khamanai the supreme leader,he is the one the controls everything in Iran not Ahmadiejad ffs. |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Ahmadinejad HAS NO POWER in Iran,is that so hard to understand? remember Khatami?the president before Ahmadinejad?he was a conservative and people liked him alot,he promised lots of changes,but since he had no power just like any other president in Iran he couldnt achieve any of them.
The real power in Iran comes from Ayatollah Khamanai the supreme leader,he is the one the controls everything in Iran not Ahmadiejad ffs. |
Ayatollah Khamanai is the man, and he is also the one that pulls the strings.... I cannot belive this, but you are right on that.
{going off to take a shower cause I feel so dirty agreeing with you} ;) |
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