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| metalgearsolid |
| holy dude! Quit spamming your own thread:eyes: |
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| Dopey |
Chechnyaplutonium,
Judges, constitution, nothing of this matters in a corrupt, Mafia-ridden country. Putin is corrupt, read any election observer report. He breathes and breeds corruption.
End of. |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dopey
Chechnyaplutonium,
Judges, constitution, nothing of this matters in a corrupt, Mafia-ridden country. Putin is corrupt, read any election observer report. He breathes and breeds corruption.
End of. |
Organized crime and madia cannot be defeated overnight. Actually, they can never be destroyed. Look, USA, Canada, France, UK, Italy, YOU NAME IT - they have gangs, mafia, organized crime. You cant expect Putin to defeat corruption and crime in a country of 145 million people with many other problems overnight? Putin is still tying to fix the mistakes of the Soviets and Yeltsin's blunders.
Also, read:
Russia: Fight Against Corruption Starts With Interior Ministry
http://www.rferl.org/features/featu...EE-D48B8F4213D0
^^^ very reliable source, btw. |
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| Dopey |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Organized crime and madia cannot be defeated overnight. Actually, they can never be destroyed. Look, USA, Canada, France, UK, Italy, YOU NAME IT - they have gangs, mafia, organized crime. You cant expect Putin to defeat corruption and crime in a country of 145 million people with many other problems overnight? Putin is still tying to fix the mistakes of the Soviets and Yeltsin's blunders.
Also, read:
Russia: Fight Against Corruption Starts With Interior Ministry
http://www.rferl.org/features/featu...EE-D48B8F4213D0
<-- very reliable source, btw. |
Well I guess we'll see if he stays in office past 2009. Part of any "democracy" is abiding by the rules of the constitution you have such a high regard for. |
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| Dopey |
| Chenchnyaplutonium, you still havent responded in the 12 year old boy thread, are you gonna own me again with your e-shlong? |
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| tathi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
But, it may also be a liberal autocracy governed by an "enlightened despot" who allows a significant amount of individual rights, such as freedom of speech and private property.
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ive heard that Kathryn the Great was the "epitome" of an enlightened despot championing education for the surfs etc, right?
| quote: | | Also, you had "faith" in Russia? Well, the West was happy that Russia became democratic in 1991, and promised to help us financially, economically to rebuild, and become like an average western european country. It was all lies. You guys ing ditched us. I lived in Russia in early 1990s, it was miserable. Market economy evapourated millions of Russians' life savings, millions became homeless, and western companies like Shell, McDonalds and others have made profits while poverty, crime, disease, terrible conditions - things got worse. We got no help. Yeltsin played around, gave unlimited freedoms to everyone - corporate s, oligarchs and politicans abused their freedoms, stealing, raping the land, having sex orgies, mafia gatherings, drug smuggling ... thats democracy for ya, and the goovernment couldn't crack down because that would be attack on democracy. Well, people eventually decided that enough's enough. Today's Russia looks much better than according to you "the bright days of Russia in 1990s", which were actually the worst disaster in Russian history since 1917. |
interesting to hear your perspective
| quote: | Originally posted by Dopey
Judges, constitution, nothing of this matters in a corrupt, Mafia-ridden country. Putin is corrupt, read any election observer report. He breathes and breeds corruption. |
hilarious, Israeli President Moshe Katsav is a rapist, Aerial Sharon is a disgusting war criminal who (fortunately for him) escaped being tried in the International Criminal Court because he turned into a vegetable, and Olmert proved himself to be a War Criminal of the same Caliber as Nasrallah after the Lebanon war....and here you're trying to claim the moral high ground? :p |
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| Dopey |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
Israeli President Moshe Katsav is a rapist, Aerial Sharon is a disgusting war criminal who (fortunately for him) escaped being tried in the International Criminal Court because he turned into a vegetable, and Olmert proved himself to be a War Criminal of the same Caliber as Nasrallah after the Lebanon war....and here you're trying to claim the moral high ground? |
I know!
Most ing Jews are corrupt!
Throw the Jew down the well!
Long live Arafat!
Stand up to those money thieving Jew scum my brother! |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dopey
I know!
Most ing Jews are corrupt!
Throw the Jew down the well!
Long live Arafat!
Stand up to those money thieving Jew scum my brother! |
Oh my dear Lord. Guess what I found out today:
"Jacob Wolfowitz was a Polish national of Jewish descent whose parents fled to the United States in 1920 to escape persecution. Many of Wolfowitz’s relatives left behind in Poland were to die in the Holocaust. James Mann, in Rise of the Vulcans, says that Jacob Wolfowitz "was a committed Zionist throughout his life and, in later years he would be pleased that his son Paul, would be the chief Architect responsible for invasion of Iraq, and was also active in organizing protests against Soviet repression of dissidents and minorities.
Paul Dundes Wolfowitz (b. December 22, 1943) is an American academic and political figure. He is currently the President of the World Bank, but may be most famous as a prominent architect of the foreign policy of the George W. Bush administration known as the Bush Doctrine, which resulted in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
A former aide to neoconservative Democratic Senator Henry M. Jackson in the 1970s, Wolfowitz also served in the U.S. Defense Department, as Director of Policy Planning and Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs at the U.S. State Department, as U.S. Ambassador to Indonesia, and as Deputy Secretary of Defense in the Administration of George W. Bush."
According to Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz
The rabbit hole just got deeeeeeper ;-) :eek: :eek: :eek: |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dopey
Long live Arafat! |
Well that's kinda hard now  . Anyways, no one here is fond of him eigther btw. |
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| Magnetonium |
:haha: :haha: :haha: First paragraph on that link says it all:
"Royal Dutch Shell has offered to cede control of the $22 billion Sakhalin-2 project, Russia’s biggest single foreign investment, to state gas monopoly Gazprom after months of pressure, industry sources say."
"The tentative understanding comes after months of pressure from Russia’s natural resources ministry and its environmental regulator, which have accused Shell of environmental violations."
You dont know the whole story. This has been developing for a few months now, and its over a month ago. Shell was losing money in that project, so they took shortcuts which resulted in terrible environmental damage. It was documented (thats "pressure" from the article's point of view). So Shell was told to pay for the damages, and change its operations to meet the standards, which they decided was too expensive for them, cheaper to sell.
"These take-overs by Mr. Putin and his fellow KGB gangsters of the core industries of the Soviet Union Russia are the scandal of our generation.
The USSR is back. Not that it really ever went away."
HAHA, YEAH, THIS ARTICLE IS NEUTRAL-WRITTEN, LOL ... BIASED!!! This article is garbage ;-) |
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