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| djms |
hey guys
when I've completed my mix it peeks above odb in some areas. The highest it peaks is probs 2 above.
I alwasy keep my output at 0db but cant avoid my track clipping at some points.
Should I lower the master volume to a level where it doesn;t clip then get it back onto ableton for mastering or should i render it with it clipping and then master it?
If anyone else uses ableton to mix wuld be great to know any suggestions anyone has?
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| No Left Turn |
You've got a few options...
1. Adjust your mix so that the mix doesn't clip. You can do this either by pulling down the entire mix a tad or by finding the culprit of the clipping and adjust the mix accordingly.
2. Lower the master fader (not recommended since you'll be lowering your signal to noise ratio).
3. Throw a limiter on the master buss and leave the threshold at zero. I wouldn't recommend this either as you can easily abuse the use of the limiter being on the master buss, however, given the circumstances this could be used for a quick fix. |
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| G-Con |
I would either lower the volume in ableton just enough to remove any clipping then render it to disk for mastering. ~
or i would put a limiter on the master just to remove any clipping. then render that.
From what i was told on here, NEVER render to disk when clipping is occuring |
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| BOOsTER |
I would say your best bet is finding what causes the clipping and adjusting the mix...
the other option is pulling down the fader a bit so it doesn't clip anymore...and then master... |
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| djms |
thanks guys
Just done an awsome suburban train remix (unofficial), going to mix it down and master it tonight :)
It's too hard to find whats making the mix clip so I'll just pull down the master vol a bit then give it some... |
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| mysticalninja |
| the individual tracks are probably clipping and the plugins on them are probably clipping too most likely.. best to turn all your tracks down individually. |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by No Left Turn
You've got a few options...
1. Adjust your mix so that the mix doesn't clip. You can do this either by pulling down the entire mix a tad or by finding the culprit of the clipping and adjust the mix accordingly.
2. Lower the master fader (not recommended since you'll be lowering your signal to noise ratio).
3. Throw a limiter on the master buss and leave the threshold at zero. I wouldn't recommend this either as you can easily abuse the use of the limiter being on the master buss, however, given the circumstances this could be used for a quick fix. |
I like option three, but would recommend maybe a multiband compressor instead, as it will not be as hard as a limiter. most peoples mixes clip at some point, limiters save this, as long as the peak's not long, your quite alright to use one, a second of limiting here and there is well acceptable.
Alternatively yes you could isolate the track thats causing the clip and compress it a little more... But if its a combination of tracks, you'll spend forever, may ruin your results thus far, and will likely not get a better result, can you identify the culprit track clearly enough? Whats your confidence like?:D |
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| djms |
it;s an uphill struggle - a lot of the time to gibve my tracks a pumping sound I pull the threshold on compressors quite far down and this makes for a jumpy sound that doesn;t stay level.
My mixes only usuallty clip by max 2db over.
I'll try pulling the master down and then put the file back into Ableton and if that doesn;t work so well then I'll put a limiter on the master channel to stop it clipping.
thanks guys - if anyone has wny other cool tips please contribute
Persequor ;) |
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