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agentdansmith
I know that if you have to pitch up a track by around 6%, then the key has changed to +7 round the Camelot Ring.

What I need to know is that if I have to slow down a track by 6% do I just subtract the key by -7 on the table to give me my new key?

Cheers

PS - how many of you just use Master Tempo so that you dont have to bother with paying attention to your pitch?
Pinokio
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Originally posted by agentdansmith
I know that if you have to pitch up a track by around 6%, then the key has changed to +7 round the Camelot Ring.

What I need to know is that if I have to slow down a track by 6% do I just subtract the key by -7 on the table to give me my new key?

Correct =)



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PS - how many of you just use Master Tempo so that you dont have to bother with paying attention to your pitch?


I almost always use Master Tempo.
I also calculate the Key & BPM for all of my tracks, because when I'm on Master Tempo I don't like to go over 3% because it starts to sound weird.

I only unlock the "Master Tempo" when I want to change the key of a song to be mixable with another song.

Good Luck

Pepa
RJT
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Originally posted by Pinokio
when I'm on Master Tempo I don't like to go over 3% because it starts to sound weird.


I see a lot of people say this, and I've definitely experienced similar phenomena - but it's very subjective. Sometimes it sounds fine with MT on and pitched way up, sometimes it sounds horrid - In my experience, you just have to check, track for track.

The biggest issue I've had with MT over 3% is that sometimes (for whatever reason) beatmatching/corrections seem to get harder.
agentdansmith
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The biggest issue I've had with MT over 3% is that sometimes (for whatever reason) beatmatching/corrections seem to get harder.


This is exactly what I experience on some tracks. Some beats sound slightly stretched and I think that this gives the impression that it's out of time so then you'll try and correct it only to find that it was in time and now you have just knocked it out of time - if that makes sense!
RJT
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Originally posted by agentdansmith
This is exactly what I experience on some tracks. Some beats sound slightly stretched and I think that this gives the impression that it's out of time so then you'll try and correct it only to find that it was in time and now you have just knocked it out of time - if that makes sense!


That actually makes absolutely perfect sense to me - especially considering the difficulty I had with a particular mix out last weekend.

Can anyone explain why this happens for some tunes and not others?

:conf:
skip
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Originally posted by RJT
That actually makes absolutely perfect sense to me - especially considering the difficulty I had with a particular mix out last weekend.

Can anyone explain why this happens for some tunes and not others?

:conf:



i'm just guessing here and have no idea if i'm right or wrong, but could it be that the beat sound on some tracks is "longer". so that by stretching it up it goes ed, just like some long strings might get ed when using master tempo.
RJT
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Originally posted by skip
i'm just guessing here and have no idea if i'm right or wrong, but could it be that the beat sound on some tracks is "longer". so that by stretching it up it goes ed, just like some long strings might get ed when using master tempo.


Seems pretty reasonable to me.
DJ_Progrezz
i honestly think all this whining about harmonic mixin is pure crap

if it sounds good, it sounds good
if it doenst sound good, it doesnt sound good


ITS JUST AS SIMPLE AS THAT

we are all dj's, not scientists with dj booth
Push2005
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Originally posted by DJ_Progrezz
we are all dj's, not scientists with dj booth



Those guys are Dj's, expanding their horizon and expirementing with their techniques.

You, on the other hand, seem just a retard to me; who is clearly not capable of understanding what they're talking about.

Of course it's not necessary to mix with master tempo, but how can you make such a pointless reply ffs.
DJ_Progrezz
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Originally posted by Push2005
Those guys are Dj's, expanding their horizon and expirementing with their techniques.

You, on the other hand, seem just a retard to me; who is clearly not capable of understanding what they're talking about.

Of course it's not necessary to mix with master tempo, but how can you make such a pointless reply ffs.


as i said, it don't make a if it's in key or not, if it sounds good, it's good

starboy
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Originally posted by DJ_Progrezz
as i said, it don't make a if it's in key or not, if it sounds good, it's good

What sounds good to you is most likely a nasty ear bleed to people that mix in key.
pkcRAISTLIN
quote:
Originally posted by DJ_Progrezz
i honestly think all this whining about harmonic mixin is pure crap

if it sounds good, it sounds good
if it doenst sound good, it doesnt sound good


ITS JUST AS SIMPLE AS THAT

we are all dj's, not scientists with dj booth


idiot.
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