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Is this "electro" house really just a fad?
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Fearing that this thread will turn into another one of those nitpicking the definitions of varying genres (as I'm sure it will), I've decided to make this thread.
We're all aware, or should be aware that I'm talking about the type of house which was made popular by the Swedish House Mafia back in 2005. The tracks with the buzzy, farty, unmelodic bassline which was easily emulated, duplicated, and reiterated throughout the entirety of the year. Even trance jocks like Armin and Paul van Dyk were spinning tracks by Prydz, and Angello & Ingrosso. Come late 2005, many professed to be tired with this sound as it was trite, trendy, and it seemed as though it would be a fad and eventually be phased out.
For a time, it was phased out and not completely in prominence. Now it seems that it's back again with the same producers producing tracks in that vein as well as Paul van Dyk and Armin now making their own productions and remixes with that bassline (i.e. PvD's remix of the Justin Timberlake song "What Goes Around Comes Around and Armin's own production "The World Is Watching Me"). This time Rank 1, formerly a completely epic trance/trance production duo has teamed up with someone else who is famous for epic trance, Alex M.O.R.P.H. to make an "electro" house track "A Life Less Ordinary".
So what's caused this resurgence and augmentation? I'm guessing that Fedde le Grand track, you all know which one I'm talking about. Or could it be that this genre, whatever it is to be called, isn't just a fad, but an actual mainstay? |
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| Cobalt |
I think the explanation is pretty simple. Producers that have been out of ideas for years (e.g. epic trance) are desperately grasping for something trendy and different.
Electro buzzsaws don't have much of a learning curve. As you mentioned, they were pretty tired after less than a year of use. |
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| Spirit5 |
| I think if they managed to add more melodic and warm and even more subtle electro elements, it might work. However to turn trance and house into more and more "electro" sounding, just destroys the sound, and doesn't sound warm or melodic or uplifting. In other words, it's quite possible to use some electro sounds without making the track with that annoying farty electro sound that has become quite prevalent the last few years. Jaytech is a good example to me, of this good balance. His stuff is melodic and has some warmth to it, but it doesn't over do it in the electro-sounds department. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spirit5
...doesn't sound warm or melodic or uplifting. |
Lots of great trance is neither warm nor uplifting. |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Lots of great trance is neither warm nor uplifting. |
Yeah I know that but that is what makes trance so popular and that style so popular..because it is warm and uplifting and melodic. I'm well aware of the dark stuff and tech stuff and such. But that doesn't appeal to me, nor towards the many people who've been into the warm and uplifting stuff since around 1999. I don't mind some dark stuff, but if a whole set or CD is that, it gets boring. I guess you can say the same about the uplifting stuff, but it is what has drawn me to the genre. I mean trance has been popular, and it's not just because of the beat. There's obviously been more to trance tracks vs some other forms of EDM that have an even greater reliance on beat.
I've gone on and on about it before but i'll just say...it's the "human" element that attracts people to those tracks that have a warmth or are uplifting, in the sense that they aren't dark and depressing or "cold"..and this is often conveyed through melody, harmony or just a more "organic" feel. Electro, to me, lacks the "organic" or "warmth" or "human" type sound. It just sounds too synthetic...just like a computer..hence "electro". I guess the sound I like and prefer is that classic "Chicane" sound. |
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| TwistedDUO |
| Electro house as a genre may be new. But the music has been around for a very long time. If you look back (I mean way back, 1985-ish), freestyle music was flourishing. I think modern day remixers are using it as throwback to those days. Since anything "retro" sells and is immediately appealing to the masses. |
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| Ian |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cobalt
I think the explanation is pretty simple. Producers that have been out of ideas for years (e.g. epic trance) are desperately grasping for something trendy and different.
Electro buzzsaws don't have much of a learning curve. As you mentioned, they were pretty tired after less than a year of use. |
while epic trance is suffering, progressive trance, progpsy & psy are doing quite nicely with some brilliant tunes in the last 18 months :) |
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| iammesol |
I never saw it as a fad... I just kinda'...
like the sound  |
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| Clovis |
| Some people still find it fresh and inspiring I guess. |
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| Hydarnes |
| This whole electro house is a total shame to EDM in general. Cheese all the way, no melody, nothing memorable, just thump thumpp thump. |
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| Alex |
| quote: | Originally posted by Hydarnes
This whole electro house is a total shame to EDM in general. Cheese all the way, no melody, nothing memorable, just thump thumpp thump. |
????
I beg to differ, I would also like to know which tunes or DJs you are basing this opinion on?
Guys like Acquaviva/KU/Tim Richards/Remo/Radioslave all make wikkid ass Electro house tunes, albeit these guys dont make PURELY electro house tunes nor do they play PURELY electro house tunes.
Electro house has its place, its a wikkid genre I find and if you mix it in properly with prog and tech you get excellent results, some of the biggest dancefloor destroyer tunes out there are considered by many to be "electro house" tunes.
and ya this post has nothing to do with trance since my knowledge of trance is even lesser than my knowledge of Organic Chemistry. |
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