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Playing live trance sets
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| Rusty O'Hara |
ie: Playing/performing live sets.
There seems to be nothing about the subject... so, hands up who plays live trance?
What do you use? Software, hardware, hybrid?
Purely 100% your work? Drop in a few remixes?
Any comments, advice, thoughts etc. |
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| aquila |
I did a mock gig not long ago. Just in front of a few friends...all I had with me was my jp8000 and jx3p. I played some pre-made tracks in the background and ad-libbed some extra stuff over the top.
Everyone loved it.... |
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| mysticalninja |
trace isn't meant to be played live >:O
its a genre of perfection and arps and computer precision imo. |
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| TwistedDUO |
| Ideally, I play a hybrid set using Ableton Live and CD turntables. I use Ableton for live remixing and original work. I don't normally play a whole set of this, though. This is where the cd turntables come into play. |
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| echosystm |
I kind of agree with mysticalninja. EDM is DJ territory, not concert territory. I think this is the reason why all the Ableton stuff hasn't taken off as much as it *should* have.
People go out to clubs to get on it and hear their favourite tunes while they attempt to get pen0r/vagin0r. People do not go out to hear their favourite tunes mashed up and sodomised with a million FX. That would only take their focus away from the vagin0r.
It's all very scientific. :stongue: |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
trace isn't meant to be played live >:O
its a genre of perfection and arps and computer precision imo. |
I couldn't disagree more, where most songs these days sounds 'made' the olders songs had to be produced in a shorter time-frame (Studio-rent etc etc). While the studio got replaced by computer music it slowly lost it's freshness. When 'perfect trance' came up it lost most of it's soul and I'm glad to see recent changings within the genre are reviving that same soul. IMO.
And if you really are good, why not play your trance music live? I've seen the guy of Nu-Nrg do it, Chicane and some other band. It is very easy to do so once you've got some songs finished. It is really cool to mix elements of various songs whilst keep it soundsing clean :). Also it is way more flexible and the variations and possibilities are literally endless.
Saying trance is not supposed to be performed live is kind of short-sighted don't you think? It's not up to you to decide. If you wouldn't do it, fine. But if I would have had the possibility I surely would as it is a huge and interesting challenge and oppertunity. And it comes close to an actual dj mix if you want it to. And if you prepare properly, it should be perfect as well.
What wouldn't be more perfect to seamlessly stretch the break if the crowd wants just that? A live set with own productions is the way to let your music interact better with the crowd than a dj mix. |
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| mysticalninja |
| quote: | | Also it is way more flexible and the variations and possibilities are literally endless. |
Actually it's not and that's exactly my problem with it.. to play any kind of trance live everything has to be pre-made... and then triggered. You can really only pretend to play trance live.
IMO the crowd should follow the dj, not the other way around.
I would play my songs the same way every time anyway... just like rock bands and such do. |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
Actually it's not and that's exactly my problem with it.. to play any kind of trance live everything has to be pre-made... and then triggered. You can really only pretend to play trance live. |
Obviously you haven't looked into things but just thought about how YOU would do it. I very much disagree with your approach. At the Intuition Invites part I was backstage watching Giuseppe Ottaviani (half of nu-nrg) doing a live performance, on 2 laptops running ableton live. He was able to fade in and out multiple channels as wel as playing instruments live. A live performance is much more than a dj gig for just that. Mixing one track into another, or just playing with certain channels. A lot is indeed pre-made, but far from all has to be depending on your view on things and how much hardware you are willing to take with you.
| quote: | | IMO the crowd should follow the dj, not the other way around. |
No, if a dj needs to take the crowd up a notch he has to be able to understand their reactions and take it to the right course. If the dj isn't able to do so the crowd won't move at all. |
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| mysticalninja |
| quote: | | if you really are good, why not play your trance music live? |
cause you would have to be so ing good.. like a human metronome to do that.. trance is too dependant on patterns that are way to hard to play live and timing...
I've always kind of seen trance music as beyond human limitations.. it's like robot music. need the computer.
I dunno pressing play buttons in Ableton live and maybe playing an easy safe to do line live just doesn't impress me.
These guys however, rox my fuxing sox.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Rb14kyYYw |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
Actually it's not and that's exactly my problem with it.. to play any kind of trance live everything has to be pre-made... and then triggered. You can really only pretend to play trance live.
IMO the crowd should follow the dj, not the other way around.
I would play my songs the same way every time anyway... just like rock bands and such do. |
I also disagree. A real rock band (that is, one who is actually worth seeing) will improvise a lot. The best performances I've ever seen (in rock) were the ones where there was the most improvisation. Some rock fans may be hooked on over-rehearsed top 40 e, but not all.
Also, I really admire what people like chicane, Nu NRG are doing, with almost all live instruments. They are breaking down the barriers between djing and live performance, they're twisting the definition of both, and in the process creating something unique and amazing.
I think that the new software like ableton live makes these things very possible, and much easier than ever before, Also, people like Armin and Sasha are also using live to splice songs and improvise in new ways, which is another area. |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
not trance but this was done live in flp
LINKAGE |
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| Storyteller |
| Which is just the reason why FL sucks and also why you should stop spamming. You just ruined my day with that clip. |
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