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TA got me fired.. (pg. 3)
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
Ok, I agree with you. Anybody can sue/negotiate due to wrongful dismissal.
However - good luck fighting being fired because of messing around on the internet at work after receiving a warning for such. |
But was he formally warned? I surf all the time...we're technically not supposed to surf...but if I was fired, without formal warning, and I stood in front of a judge and said that I surf for 15 minutes to relieve stress and take a breather instead of going for a smoke, and a manager suddenly fired me...well, I don't look so bad, do I? I bet that I would win.
In this case, the relevant issue appears not to be the reason for termination...but rather whether he was formally warned or not (i.e. documented warning).
while there are specific acts that legally justify termination without formal warning...such as insubordination, theft, violence, drug consumption, etc...surfing the net isn't one of them (in most cases).
crappy job, short tenure, low pay...not worth it. longer tenure, high earnings...perhaps. |
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| dallastar |
that ROYALLY sucks ass dude - sorry to hear!
I better knock this out at work then too! |
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| mickmack |
| haha.. you're a dumbass mark. it's all good though. you needed out of there. |
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| Silky Johnson |
| P.S. You weren't still working at Future Shop, were you? |
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| dallastar |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
P.S. You weren't still working at Future Shop, were you? |
;-D |
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| DigiNut |
Sorry Mark, but you're wrong about the law. Even if it's written like that, it's not followed in the courts. There have been dozens, probably hundreds of high-profile cases regarding firings for surfing, blogging, porn, etc. Every single time (feel free to post a relevant example if this is incorrect) the judge has said, tough .
It just doesn't matter if he was formally warned, or warned at all. Not in cases involving web surfing, at least. Courts consider this to go under the "abuse" category, the category of unscrupulous behaviour that also includes things like information theft and sabotage and other immediately-firable offences. I realize it's not as severe in most cases, but that's just the way it is. If he were playing Solitaire or Minesweeper for 5 hours a day or making personal phone calls, they'd have to issue a warning and have a documentation trail, but not 'net abuse. Maybe it's just that the legal system hasn't caught up to technology yet, as it hasn't in so many other areas. Or maybe it's because you need warnings and documentation to prove things like excessive personal phone calls, but for web surfing it's all right there in the server logs.
This is even more cut-and-dry if the company has an internet usage policy. Not every company does, but if one does, and if the policy specifies "immediate termination" or anything similar, then no law can circumvent that. Employees know the policy, and they know they can be monitored. Although I don't believe that any respectable company would terminate an employee without warning for minor violations of its usage policy, they are still within their rights to do so.
As for circumstances... colour me cynical but I don't believe that anybody with a high-paying job or years of tenure has the time to goof off on tranceaddict at work, or the lack of motivation to do something constructive instead. |
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| Turntabulls |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
P.S. You weren't still working at Future Shop, were you? |
hell no! lol, rogers wireless |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Turntabulls
hell no! lol, rogers wireless |
Oh...well 'em anyways. :D |
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| Turntabulls |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Oh...well 'em anyways. :D |
haha, i have another job lined up anyways.. lol i was planning on quitting there soon.. ah well! one week off for me with severance pay and vacation pay! who wants to party? lol |
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| dallastar |
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you know you can't really blame TA you can truly only blame yourself and learn from your mistakes NOT to surf whiel you are at work - heck they are paying you to do a job - not to post on TA :)IMO! |
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| Provocative_boi |
| Sorry to hear that dood, i hope you find a job where they actually pay you to go on TA ; ) |
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