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| discobiscuit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tony Morello
that's what i'm worried about
being enticed back
it's a tough choice but it's time to move on to bigger and better things |
yeah i hung up my phones a week ago.. i just booked a new gig on thursdays :/ so much for that! |
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| TwistedDUO |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Omeed
crowd response...but it was ridicoulously political. I am 18, and I didnt have many friends I could whore into the place that were of age(I was the only first year dj...and at this campus club student card has to be shown..so no fakes even). SOme djs brought like 60 people in and told them to go crazy when they went on, and to sit aside the rest of the time.
I did get 3 place out of 7 participants, but let me tell you there was not much serious competition in there AT ALL, which is the main reason why I was dissapointed with myself. I was thinking too much. |
I wouldn't even sweat this one then. Trust me. This wasn't a contest of skill, it was a popularity contest. Your mistake wasn't in mixing, it was in promotion. Lemme give you an example of who the same thing happened to me.
I entered a similar popularity contest where the prize was $500 and a residency at a huge club (that was hosting the event). Througout the night, the people at the club would vote via ballot. I did my usual promotion tactics. I invited my friends, posted onilne, sent some emails and for the most part, my friends did show up. What I did notice in my promotions, though is a that one of my competetors had placed home-made fliers in the record stores with only his name on it. Along with that it says: "Don't forget to vote for *dj's name*."
So the night of the competition, I rocked the crowd. Hands down I had better tracks, better mixing, even better crowd response. But the numbers that I brought weren't enough in compared to who this guy promoted to. So naturally, he got the most votes and won the contest. I came in third.
So don't worry about these BS competitions. Just learn from them. Next time, if you feel you need to. Whore your name out to drag more people in. |
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| SuPeRSaW2005 |
| no worries dude...don't forget, no one remembers the bad djs anyway...it's the good ones they remember...so if one time you screwed up, it was just once and the event is far gone by now, you're probably forgotten by now as of that day's dj and no one will hold it against you in the future when you do real good and set the place on fiya! |
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| Inertia |
i have only spun once in my life where everything went well.
it's rarely my fault, i have faith in my skill, but things like ed up decks, a shot mixer, the sound crapping out, a cable breaking, the weather ing the party up... things like that follow me like a plague. me spinning normally ends up being more hassle than fun. yet i still do it. call me crazy. |
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| RJT |
Sometimes you eat the bar, sometimes the bar eats you.
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| Inertia |
also, to our veterans that hung the headphones up... i really don't understand this...
why would you quit doing something you love because of how other people act?
if i were in your position, where gigs are flooding in, and there would be enticements for me to spin at them, what i would do is just, well... become a bit more difficult.
if i wasn't interested in playing as many gigs or dealing with bull, i'd just up my DJ fee, make a contract with my specific demands and whatnot to get promoters on my own terms. if they meet everything, then, well, i wouldn't have anything to complain about and i would spin. if they don't, big deal, it's not like i was really after the gig anyway.
even big name DJs do things like these when they are tired/want to play less gigs and focus on production/etc. think about it, you will have more time, and if a gig ever pops up that you will accept, you know it will be worth it. no sense in quitting a hobby you like and the chance to make a little extra from it. |
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| noikeee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
i have only spun once in my life where everything went well.
it's rarely my fault, i have faith in my skill, but things like ed up decks, a shot mixer, the sound crapping out, a cable breaking, the weather ing the party up... things like that follow me like a plague. me spinning normally ends up being more hassle than fun. yet i still do it. call me crazy. |
you're crazy! |
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by noikeee
you're crazy! |
i actually looked at your post for a good 30 seconds wondering wtf was wrong with you and why you wrote that :p |
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| TwistedDUO |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
also, to our veterans that hung the headphones up... i really don't understand this...
why would you quit doing something you love because of how other people act?
if i were in your position, where gigs are flooding in, and there would be enticements for me to spin at them, what i would do is just, well... become a bit more difficult.
if i wasn't interested in playing as many gigs or dealing with bull, i'd just up my DJ fee, make a contract with my specific demands and whatnot to get promoters on my own terms. if they meet everything, then, well, i wouldn't have anything to complain about and i would spin. if they don't, big deal, it's not like i was really after the gig anyway.
even big name DJs do things like these when they are tired/want to play less gigs and focus on production/etc. think about it, you will have more time, and if a gig ever pops up that you will accept, you know it will be worth it. no sense in quitting a hobby you like and the chance to make a little extra from it. |
Werd to this.
Unfortunately, far too many dj's are more concerned with seeing their names on lineups than their creative integrity. Which is why we often see an array of crap dj's playing out more frequently than quality dj's who restrict their gigs. |
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| Tony Morello |
| quote: | Originally posted by TwistedDUO
Werd to this.
Unfortunately, far too many dj's are more concerned with seeing their names on lineups than their creative integrity. Which is why we often see an array of crap dj's playing out more frequently than quality dj's who restrict their gigs. |
that's one of my reasons
too much crap and not enough quality
the scene in calgary is really weird right now
people are worshipping these green djs who barely have experience
ironically enough, i've been offered a monthly residency which i've accepted, taking the role of promoter and not dj
i've selected a few djs from my roster who'll be the residents
i'll try change things from behind the scenes rather than the front lines
if things pick up i could be cohersed back behind the decks, not likely, but it could happen
if the night bombs, maybe it's just this city and it's fickle nightlife and relocation could be an option
we'll see how things go, i've had success in the past in the promoter role but fell short because i was also a resident, hopefully this time as a promoter only with 3 of my quality djs backing me up on the decks things will pan out
really, it just came down to me not liking the scene in calgary, now i'm going to try change that |
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| Tony Morello |
| quote: | Originally posted by TwistedDUO
I wouldn't even sweat this one then. Trust me. This wasn't a contest of skill, it was a popularity contest. Your mistake wasn't in mixing, it was in promotion. Lemme give you an example of who the same thing happened to me.
I entered a similar popularity contest where the prize was $500 and a residency at a huge club (that was hosting the event). Througout the night, the people at the club would vote via ballot. I did my usual promotion tactics. I invited my friends, posted onilne, sent some emails and for the most part, my friends did show up. What I did notice in my promotions, though is a that one of my competetors had placed home-made fliers in the record stores with only his name on it. Along with that it says: "Don't forget to vote for *dj's name*."
So the night of the competition, I rocked the crowd. Hands down I had better tracks, better mixing, even better crowd response. But the numbers that I brought weren't enough in compared to who this guy promoted to. So naturally, he got the most votes and won the contest. I came in third.
So don't worry about these BS competitions. Just learn from them. Next time, if you feel you need to. Whore your name out to drag more people in. |
about those stupid dj comps
i too have a similar story
a chance to open the night for armin van buuren, not open for him, just play from opening til the opening dj
anywho, we were givin tickets with our names on them, passed them all out and even went back for refills
another dj playing that comp with almost the same friends gave them all his tickets (2 day comp, he friday, me saturday)
long story short, everyone showed up friday with his tickets, partied all night (dj show that night) then went home
i got screwed out because everyone was too hungover to come out the second night and since it was going to be a regular club night (top 40 garbage) they weren't down with having to dress up
even the judges said i played the best set, i just didn't have the numbers to support |
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| Tony Morello |
well that ing sucks
the career i was going to be focusing all my attention on decides to lay me off
they've found another producer that's more expereinced and can handle my work too, we had a vacant spot that i was set to fill
looks like it's back to djing full time again
this sucks, in more ways than one |
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