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Thought on Islam? (pg. 4)
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| Sunsnail |
| quote: | Originally posted by tranceDJ
You mention that these "morons" are generally nice however you forget that it's everyone's CHOICE to practice whatever religion they choose and everyone should be entitled to their beliefs and those beliefs shouldn't be criticized. |
I disagree; I think it's very important for one's beliefs to be questioned and criticized. |
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| tranceDJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
I disagree; I think it's very important for one's beliefs to be questioned and criticized. |
Yeah...I realized that and edited my post, unfortunately you read it before I revised it.:p
Beliefs should be criticized...however I don't think one should ever tell another they shouldn't believe what they believe or that they are a moron for believing it |
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| Nayil |
Am Studying in College station, Texas..... with redknecks.
Everyday I have to go through with people calling me " terrorist " in a joking way. Well, a joke isnt funny when u hear it once every week is it ? |
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| misterpink |
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I don't deny anyones' right to practice those beliefs, nor do I, in most instances, openly project my thoughts of those who practice religion; however, this is close enough to a thread that asks my opinion of those groups, so I have expressed said views, albeit, in a purposefully obnoxious fashion.
I have had to make the link to all groups, otherwise, I could be perceived as anti-fill-in-the-blank.
The real point I was attempting to get across by using that particular tone was that agnostics and atheists through out history are openly chastized for their beliefs, or rather, disbeliefs. It was a lude attempt at making a non-religious religious holier than thou style speach(if that even makes sense) that, in my opinion, most religious people tend to dismiss as acceptable. I just thought it was funny to have a non-believer denounce every other belief in the same fashion as a religious zealot would. |
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| all-nite-freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by misterpink
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I don't deny anyones' right to practice those beliefs, nor do I, in most instances, openly project my thoughts of those who practice religion; however, this is close enough to a thread that asks my opinion of those groups, so I have expressed said views, albeit, in a purposefully obnoxious fashion.
I have had to make the link to all groups, otherwise, I could be perceived as anti-fill-in-the-blank.
The real point I was attempting to get across by using that particular tone was that agnostics and atheists through out history are openly chastized for their beliefs, or rather, disbeliefs. It was a lude attempt at making a non-religious religious holier than thou style speach(if that even makes sense) that, in my opinion, most religious people tend to dismiss as acceptable. I just thought it was funny to have a non-believer denounce every other belief in the same fashion as a religious zealot would. |
we dont need your education, we don't need your thoughts conrol. |
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| Nayil |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
we dont need your education, we don't need your thoughts conrol. |
lol.... sucks to be him |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by misterpink
Islam is like every other religion, it's for morons. I believe I went over religion before. It's for weak human beings, and morons. Islam has no shortage of morons, nor does Judaism, Christianity, Wicka(most morons per square foot), Hindu, etc. They are all morons.
Having said that, I find no shortage of really nice muslims. Just because I find your belief system ignorant, reprehensible, and hypocritical, doesn't mean that I can't look past those obvious faults within your character and become a close friend, perhaps, dare I say, lover.
That, ofcourse, doesn't detract from the number of non-religious morons out there, but the important thing to remember is that there is an innate moronic characteristic found within religion, and that a person simply has a better chance of not being a moron if they are non-religious.
So, if there are any ignorant, reprehensible, hypocritical, moronic, weak-minded female muslims out there that want to hit the zone on any given Sabbath, let me know. |
There have been any number of religious people throughout history infinitely stronger, more courageous and more intelligent than yourself.
Do you really think that you're the first genius to come up with the notion that religion is a construct made to subdue people's fears, deal with their insecurities and absolve them of personal responsibility? And that it's not something that the more intelligent of the religious have answered for themselves?
I am not religious myself, but what I find more annoying than the dogmatic Christian evangelicals are the dogmatic atheists... at least the former can be entertaining. |
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| misterpink |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
we dont need your education, we don't need your thoughts conrol. |
by taking this tone, I'm not trying to control your thoughts, but rather, force you to think...I believe in there somewhere is the idea that you're welcome to think and do what you want... it's my right to call you a moron for it...:) |
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| all-nite-freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by misterpink
by taking this tone, I'm not trying to control your thoughts, but rather, force you to think...I believe in there somewhere is the idea that you're welcome to think and do what you want... it's my right to call you a moron for it...:) |
if you really wanted to help youd get me a beer. |
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| misterpink |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
There have been any number of religious people throughout history infinitely stronger, more courageous and more intelligent than yourself.
Do you really think that you're the first genius to come up with the notion that religion is a construct made to subdue people's fears, deal with their insecurities and absolve them of personal responsibility? And that it's not something that the more intelligent of the religious have answered for themselves?
I am not religious myself, but what I find more annoying than the dogmatic Christian evangelicals are the dogmatic atheists... at least the former can be entertaining. |
As I've just proven, dogmatic atheists, and in my case, agnostics can be entertaining...I'm glad someone recognized it for what it was...that was the point...it was intended to be humourous...even if you did mistake my dogmatic tone for the way in which I would normally speak... |
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| misterpink |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
if you really wanted to help youd get me a beer. |
I'll leave that to the religious nuts, get one of them to float you one over from the fridge... |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by misterpink
As I've just proven, dogmatic atheists, and in my case, agnostics can be entertaining...I'm glad someone recognized it for what it was...that was the point...it was intended to be humourous...even if you did mistake my dogmatic tone for the way in which I would normally speak... |
Fair enough. I missed the novelty, frankly because that attitude isn't particularly novel here. Every pimply faced emo angsty teenager that has discovered Sartre walks around like they're a ing genius that's discovered something the religious people have missed for centuries. So the attitude is quite a common and annoying one.
Evangelicals on the other hand are quite rare here (compared to the US). So their preaching, while theoretically scary, is to me so novel in its ridiculousness that I find it funny. |
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