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My problem with school/homework/teachers (pg. 7)
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| tubby |
| quote: | Originally posted by shiny one
I Iove learning new stuff, BUT ONLY AS LONG AS IT'S INTERESTING. ...I don't think I'm gonna have very good work ethic, just because of how I am with homework. |
Any job is going to have boring and seemingly pointless tasks. And it's often how you attack those that gets yuo ahead. Anyone can be excited and work well on something really interesting.
If you can fall over on those for something as basic as not being able to listen to music whilst you work, how will you fare n the workforce? |
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| shiny one |
| quote: | Originally posted by tubby
Any job is going to have boring and seemingly pointless tasks. And it's often how you attack those that gets yuo ahead. Anyone can be excited and work well on something really interesting.
If you can fall over on those for something as basic as not being able to listen to music whilst you work, how will you fare n the workforce? |
I don't think its that kind of stupid that teachers feed you all this stuff like they just want you to succeed, and they don't really seem to live up to that. It's not so much that I can't listen to music and what not, it's more of I think teachers need to get a lot of thier facts straight. |
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| the gamemaster |
| quote: | Originally posted by shiny one
What I don't get is why teachers feed you all this stuff about how they dont want to fail you, they just want what's best for you and want you to learn the information and stuff. So many things are false about that because I work better with music, but teachers usually don't let me wear my head phones during class. So many people work so much better with music, but they don't let us have it so they are just lieing to us about wanting us to do well. Also, I have a good memory and I don't need to do 2 hours of homework a night to "reinforce" what I learned. Teachers say stuff like homework is supposed to help you, but all it's done in the past is kill my grade. I just think there's alot of crap in the school system.
How do all of you feel about this kind of stuff? |
maybe your just a dumb ass. but your right dont do any homework, im sure you'll do just fine :rolleyes: |
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| shiny one |
| quote: | Originally posted by the gamemaster
maybe your just a dumb ass. but your right dont do any homework, im sure you'll do just fine :rolleyes: |
Stop trying to pick fights. Sometimes reinforcement can help me, but I'd rather have it be my CHOICE instead of a few hours of pointless busy work that's just the same kind of thing for 50 pages. |
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| the gamemaster |
| and it is your choice, nobody is forcing u to do homework ffs the teachers are telling u to do it but in the end they cant make u, so why have a cry about that part of it? but its a fact that if u dont do any in year 12 your not going to do great. alot of it in the earlier years is so that u get into the habit of doing alot of homework so when u hit year 12 you dont get shellshocked |
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| Trance Nutter |
| quote: | Originally posted by the gamemaster
and it is your choice, nobody is forcing u to do homework ffs the teachers are telling u to do it but in the end they cant make u, so why have a cry about that part of it? but its a fact that if u dont do any in year 12 your not going to do great. alot of it in the earlier years is so that u get into the habit of doing alot of homework so when u hit year 12 you dont get shellshocked |
pretty much
| quote: | | So many things are false about that because I work better with music, but teachers usually don't let me wear my head phones during class. So many people work so much better with music, but they don't let us have it so they are just lieing to us about wanting us to do well. |
worst reasoning ever.:stongue:
Are you going to make some sort of thread when you get kicked out of an exam for not being allowed to wear hadphones?
in conclusion, lose the attitude and grow the up. |
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| the gamemaster |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trance Nutter
Are you going to make some sort of thread when you get kicked out of an exam for not being allowed to wear hadphones?
in conclusion, lose the attitude and grow the up. |
lol X2 |
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| R.j. |
i finished high school
i have a job
now i wish i was in highschool |
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| distant |
| If the earlier school years don't require the students to do homework to pass classes, then maybe we should conclude that school is too easy and needs to give young students more of a challenge earlier. This has two effects: you teach the students more, faster, and it sets students up for how difficult it undoubtedly will be later. It would simply make school a smoother experience. |
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| ultrasonicc |
| Homework isn't a challenge, it's a chore. Tests are challenges. Homework doesn't teach, teachers teach. But you will still fail if you don't do homework. The whole mechanism of the school system isn't designed to educate, but rather to ready 95% of students for the work force by getting them used to going to a place, staying there for eight hours, and coming back five days a week. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Homework continues to be assigned – in ever greater quantities – despite the absence of evidence that it’s necessary or even helpful in most cases.
The dimensions of that last disparity weren’t clear to me until I began sifting through the research for a new book. To begin with, I discovered that decades of investigation have failed to turn up any evidence that homework is beneficial for students in elementary school. Even if you regard standardized test results as a useful measure, homework (some versus none, or more versus less) isn’t even correlated with higher scores at these ages. The only effect that does show up is more negative attitudes on the part of students who get more assignments.
In high school, some studies do find a correlation between homework and test scores (or grades), but it’s usually fairly small and it has a tendency to disappear when more sophisticated statistical controls are applied. Moreover, there’s no evidence that higher achievement is due to the homework even when an association does appear. It isn’t hard to think of other explanations for why successful students might be in classrooms where more homework is assigned – or why they might spend more time on it than their peers do.
The results of national and international exams raise further doubts. One of many examples is an analysis of 1994 and 1999 Trends in Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS) data from 50 countries. Researchers David Baker and Gerald Letendre were scarcely able to conceal their surprise when they published their results last year: “Not only did we fail to find any positive relationships,” but “the overall correlations between national average student achievement and national averages in [amount of homework assigned] are all negative.”
Finally, there isn’t a shred of evidence to support the widely accepted assumption that homework yields nonacademic benefits for students of any age. The idea that homework teaches good work habits or develops positive character traits (such as self-discipline and independence) could be described as an urban myth except for the fact that it’s taken seriously in suburban and rural areas, too.
In short, regardless of one’s criteria, there is no reason to think that most students would be at any sort of disadvantage if homework were sharply reduced or even eliminated. |
http://www.philosophaster.com/artic...ut-homework.htm
Homework sucks and it does not lead to improved academic performance. |
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| Trance Nutter |
| quote: | Originally posted by ultrasonicc
The whole mechanism of the school system isn't designed to educate, but rather to ready 95% of students for the work force by getting them used to going to a place, staying there for eight hours, and coming back five days a week. |
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What a load of bull. |
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