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One of Toronto's Largest Ecstasy Busts (pg. 9)
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| misterpink |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cro_Addict
i was offered $50 once, but i had none |
it was a cop...their math seems to fit, at that price... |
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| Fast Turtle |
| Yeah, that's what I was just about to say.. most of the time when I've seen people offering ridiculous amounts they turn out to be undercovers. |
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| Cro_Addict |
| quote: | Originally posted by misterpink
it was a cop...their math seems to fit, at that price... |
hahah
no not this guy...this guy looked liked he was about 17 and was barely sitting up....his eyes rolled back .... very very sketchy :) |
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| cenik |
| quote: | Originally posted by _EuG_
And i DONT think that [drugs] should be [made] legal!
so keep it underground. |
The criminal prohibition against the possession of certain drugs is a primary reason not only for the destruction of lives (insofar as, for instance, individuals who are caught are labeled and this stigma may encourage a life of criminality as well as severe restrictions on one's opportunities, e.g. employment and traveling) but also for many serious health-related problems and risks/harms (insofar as, for example, the tendency to use IV drugs in an unsafe manner--such as using dirty needles and not checking the purity (e.g. tasting heroin)--is a direct result of the fear and anxiety produced by worrying over being detected by law enforcement).
This is the bottom-line which cannot be (intelligently) disputed: drugs will always be a significant aspect of reality. Accepting that premise as the starting-point, it is time for our society to change our criminal laws to reflect a harm reduction approach in order to start saving people's lives.
I always have to come back to the marijuana possession issue: it is simply wrong for the state to punish people for possessing a substance which (at least) 3 million Canadians (i.e. 10% of the population, which is a very significant portion of our country) use per year. As a final point, research investigating the effects of decriminalization in countries such as the Netherlands suggests that increases in cannabis use as a result of the removal of criminal sanctioning generally do not occur. |
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| Lightshow |
| YOU BASTARD PIGS...TAKE A CHILL PILL!!! |
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| shanny |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
I don't want to have to get into the Economics of things...but Free Trade isn't the most efficient way!
It would be better if the governments subsidized these ecstasy labs which would promote better work policies and incentives for the poorer ecstasy makers...
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I agree, we should not get too deep into the ecoworld, but if we continue our conversation just slightly, it seems clear to me that guvernment subsidization would only work to a point.
It would inevitably lead to the labs of ecstasy makers who have guvernment connections (read friends)being subsidized while the true hard working ecstasy makers are left high and dry. |
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| Spin Laden |
| stuff like this sucks the big one. I would love to see TO get a massive at Skydome or Downsview but that'll never happen with stuff like these busts .. just a pipe dream. |
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| exstasie |
| quote: | Originally posted by shanny
I agree, we should not get too deep into the ecoworld, but if we continue our conversation just slightly, it seems clear to me that guvernment subsidization would only work to a point.
It would inevitably lead to the labs of ecstasy makers who have guvernment connections (read friends)being subsidized while the true hard working ecstasy makers are left high and dry. |
Very True...but leaving it up to fair trade isn't very efficient either. The added cost of the ecstasy as a result of fair trade will not be efficiently allocated to the true hard working ecstasy makers. A lot of the excess cost will be filtered through the government, police, Asians and other people of authority who "run" the ecstasy ring.
Also, as a result of fair trade, suppliers will find other means of getting their ecstasy, as opposed to buying it directly from the fair trade drug makers.
They will be more inclined to buy inferior ecstasy tablets from other regions to lower their expenses and have higher returns. Therefore, the hard working and "good" ecstasy tables will be demanded less, creating less income to these workers and the non hard workers who have an inferior product will be more demanded.
Thus, fair trade of ecstasy will create an increase in inferior pills and cause the nice drug makers to have a lower income than what could be accomplished through direct subsidies from the government.
and that all of my University knowledge in the field of International Economics. I don't really feel like having to bring in tariffs, exchange rate or the relative price of ecstasy. |
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| jchung52 |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
Very True...but leaving it up to fair trade isn't very efficient either. The added cost of the ecstasy as a result of fair trade will not be efficiently allocated to the true hard working ecstasy makers. A lot of the excess cost will be filtered through the government, police, Asians and other people of authority who "run" the ecstasy ring.
Also, as a result of fair trade, suppliers will find other means of getting their ecstasy, as opposed to buying it directly from the fair trade drug makers.
They will be more to by inferior ecstasy tablets from other regions to lower their expenses and have higher returns. Therefore, the hard working and "good" ecstasy tables will be demanded less, creating less income to these workers...and the non hard workers who have an inferior product will be more demanded.
Thus, fair trade of ecstasy will create an increase in inferior pills and cause the nice drug makers to have a lower income than what could be accomplished through direct subsidies from the government.
and that all of my University knowledge in the field of International Economics. I don't really feel like having to bring in tariffs, exchange rate or the relative price of ecstasy. |
youre my hero |
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| zokissima |
All of you arguing and laughing at the 'price discrepancy', just read the whole damn article...
| quote: | | What they found inside stunned everyone involved - at least 140,000 Ecstasy pills and 214 kilograms of MMDA, worth an estimated $21.4 million on the streets. |
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| shanny |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
Very True...but leaving it up to fair trade isn't very efficient either. The added cost of the ecstasy as a result of fair trade will not be efficiently allocated to the true hard working ecstasy makers. A lot of the excess cost will be filtered through the government, police, Asians and other people of authority who "run" the ecstasy ring.
Also, as a result of fair trade, suppliers will find other means of getting their ecstasy, as opposed to buying it directly from the fair trade drug makers.
They will be more inclined to buy inferior ecstasy tablets from other regions to lower their expenses and have higher returns. Therefore, the hard working and "good" ecstasy tables will be demanded less, creating less income to these workers and the non hard workers who have an inferior product will be more demanded.
Thus, fair trade of ecstasy will create an increase in inferior pills and cause the nice drug makers to have a lower income than what could be accomplished through direct subsidies from the government.
and that all of my University knowledge in the field of International Economics. I don't really feel like having to bring in tariffs, exchange rate or the relative price of ecstasy. |
Perhaps our only option then is to educate the public with "ecstasy making sessions" so that people can make their own ecstasy.
It seems that in all other avenues too many ecstasy workers are treated unfairly, and as the ethical people that we are we should not stand for this. |
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| TheVrk |
| quote: | Originally posted by shanny
Perhaps our only option then is to educate the public with "ecstassy making sessions" so that people can make their own ecstassy.
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YES, a genious you are:eyes: |
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