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Urei 1603 vs. Ecler Nuo-4
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Hey sorry to do another one of these stupid comparison threads..... but I'm really having a hard time deciding what to get. So I recently got an efx-1000, and I was looking to upgrade my mixer (currently have an Ecler smac pro-30) to one that has an effects send/return and an extra channel. After checking out several options... I narrowed it down to these two, and I'm kinda torn.
I like the way the Urei is setup and how the effects send return section is a bit more detailed in what you can monitor etc. I guess the one thing that irks me is that the VCU meter is kinda tiny.
But then the Ecler has a very similar build with a slightly less involved effects section, but it also has all that wonderful midi capability which is a bonus in that respect.
Anyways... I'm most likely not gonna be using midi until I get a laptop so thats really not useful for me at the moment, so I was wondering if anyone has comparison on sound quality, build, knob feeling, etc. Now I have an ecler so i know the sound is good and the build is good, but what about the Urei Club mixer? I've used the rotary numerous times in a club, but thats a totally different type of mixer. I guess the main thing is I don't see a lot of people with this Urei 1603, so I more or less was hoping if some people on here have it and can give feedback.
As of now the pricing is:
Urei 1603 - $595
Ecler Nuo4 - $729
So based on those prices and features... what would you guys pick? |
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| andydavey |
| I have a Nuo4 and can't recommend it enough. I have had a play on the 1603 though, and it did sound very nice indeed and is well laid out. However, the fact that they decided to put the 0 point of the EQs at about 2 o'clock rather than the standard 12 o'clock does actually really spoil what's an otherwise very good mixer IMO. |
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| trancinchink |
| quote: | Originally posted by andydavey
I have a Nuo4 and can't recommend it enough. I have had a play on the 1603 though, and it did sound very nice indeed and is well laid out. However, the fact that they decided to put the 0 point of the EQs at about 2 o'clock rather than the standard 12 o'clock does actually really spoil what's an otherwise very good mixer IMO. |
oh my... i was wondering why all the pics had the knobs turned to 2 o'clock. that really does kinda suck. |
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| Zild |
| Doesn't sound so stupid when you realize that you need to be cutting EQs and NOT boosting EQs in your sets. |
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| Allied Nations |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Doesn't sound so stupid when you realize that you need to be cutting EQs and NOT boosting EQs in your sets. |
+1 for deductive EQing. |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allied Nations
+1 for deductive EQing. |
Thank you. I always try to help people, but the problem is they don't listen. |
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| trancinchink |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Doesn't sound so stupid when you realize that you need to be cutting EQs and NOT boosting EQs in your sets. |
well i actually do both depending what i'm doing with the eq's. anyways though... its more about positioning i guess. feels more natural to return to the middle state does it not? i'm sure i can get used to it... but its still just kinda odd. |
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| Zild |
| Well the fact is you really shoudn't be doing any additive EQing and the Ecler limits that as a thankyou. |
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| trancinchink |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Well the fact is you really shoudn't be doing any additive EQing and the Ecler limits that as a thankyou. |
i don't believe there are any rules to eqing when it comes to djing. |
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| andydavey |
| It's got nothing to do with additive or subtractive EQing though really. I never do any additive EQing, but my point is that when you've cut a particular band a bit and want to return it to its 0 position, you instinctively return it to 12 o'clock as that's the way it is on every other mixer out there. Remembering to turn it to 2 o'clock so that you're not cutting it anymore is just a pain. Sure you get a bit of extra control over the cut region on the Urei (purely because the pot has got more travel), but to me this isn't worth it as I know I'd constantly forget to return the EQs to their true 0 positions. |
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| starboy |
| I always have my highs and lows at about 1 o'clock on my djm 500, it seems to boost the sound quality a bit |
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