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| The Cream Enjin |
| Everything has a shelf life....buy a TI. It will melt you. Its angels will sing you to sleep every night and beg you to play with them in the morning :tongue2 |
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| DJDIRTY |
| Virus on the powercore platform will only last depending on few things.. pci slots in the future, drivers, and if you don't fry the computer or damage the card it should be fine for years to come, But than.. lack of drivers, new operating systems, no loger suport in you music host. I can't see someone here running the same computer in 10 years time.. so... unless you're a hardcore old technology junkie, and are like folks who sequence on atari 1040, or falcon's still.. The problem with all software is that one day it might not work, and you have a choice, upgrade the hardware and forget about that plugin, or use the old technology, if it's still available.. Or you can get a new computer and just hook the old aging machine and use it as a seperate synth racks, running old plugins and synths. So it's alvays a way around. Unless you happen to fry the thing. I use to use my old computer as a synth rack, runing spdif digital back to my main machine, and it was just like running another hardware synth. There is plenty of options. |
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| Existo22 |
I am at the same boat thinking of buying this.
like others said the algorithms are straight of the virus b (with some modifications.) The sound is outstanding when compared to any soft synth (If you like the sound of the virus b) and you can get an unlimited license and run a few of them together doing different parts.
Its quite an exspensive purchase so let me know if you buy this whether you like the sound and use of the virus and let me know how you find the processing plug-ins if you decide to go all out and buy the bundle.
Best Regards. |
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| RichieV |
| people worrying about the plugin going obsolete should realise that all synths will be obsolte in that future softsynths will always be better.The software in 5 years will probably make the TI obsolete. |
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| DigiNut |
I think PCI will be around for a while and in any event, TC makes PCI-E versions of the Powercore, so if you buy a new one that's what you'll get.
Processors and bus speeds get faster but architectures don't change that often. How long has PCI been around for - at least 10 years now? And I think IDE was around for nearly 20 years before SATA came out (and IDE is still around, so is SCSI).
The drivers will only get obsolete if the company stops supporting the product, and since the Powercore is TC's flagship product, I seriously doubt that's what they intend to do. My guess is that they'll have Vista drivers within 6 months, probably less. |
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| kitphillips |
I guess my issue with anything computer wise, is that you need a computer! By which I mean, its possible to take a virus out to your mates studio and jam with it standalone, through a seperate keyboard or whatever. but even if you have the laptop version of the powercore, you're still carrying two ugly heavy boxes, plus power supplies. You'r not gonna take that on the bus to jam with. I am not in favour of the Powercore. Also there are always the compatability issues with anything to do with computers. it may crash. A virus in standalone mode will likely not crash. Plug it into a computer on the other hand and....
My advice: buy a TI. If you want the eqs and what have you, but a focusrite liquidmix as well. You get more channels of everything, in just as good (or higher) quality, its more modular and its mostly portable.
No disrespect to you powercore people, I know a lot of big name producers are using them, but they really don't suit me as I like to keep everything non computerish as much as possible...
Oh yeah, RE sequencing on atari, cubase for atari is more reliable timing wise I hear than most modern sequencers. The moral: always keep your old computers, chain them together, run systemlink/maxmsp/Reaktor etc on the old ones:D |
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| jey |
is there a vst controler for the ti??? have one for the waldorf pulse!
i prefer tweaking on screen, like to keep my head pointing the one direction as i edit sounds....
looked at the ti on ebay, kinda pricy! is it much better than the virus c?? |
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| Derivative |
| quote: | Originally posted by richg101
mor powerful i have heared. |
Not really more powerful. Just different. I dont think you get a third oscillator or something and there are a few other features that are missing compared to the Virus B. But it sort of makes up for them by allowing you to use loads of instances in parallel thereby overcoming the 24 voice polyphony of the VB. Which you can hit really quickly playing 3 note chords with Unison more than x5.
Soundwise the Virus PoCo is *exactly* the same as the hardware Virus synths. The sound is exact, except for the missing modules of course. Then again the Virus B is just software that runs on a motorola DSP in a metal box so the PoCo version is exactly the same software minus a few features. Only its coded to run off a TC Powercore DSP instead.
Also, I maintain that the best thing about the Virus is workflow. And maybe I didn't spend enough time with the PoCo UI but it just doesn't do it for me in the way the Virus B/C control surface does. Its not to do with being hands on exactly but everything on this synth is exactly where it should be for the quickest operation. I don't much like the characteristic sound of the Virus these days but I still admit - its a joy to program and build sounds on. |
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| Derivative |
| quote: | Originally posted by jey
looked at the ti on ebay, kinda pricy! is it much better than the virus c?? |
Well the biggest plus for the Ti is that it has balanced inputs and outputs. About time really as its the first Virus synth to finally go balanced. The convertors I think are also 24bit across the board whereas I think the VB/VC is 18bit DA and 24bit AD or something. The Ti also runs on 2 DSP chips as opposed to 1 so the polyphony goes up to around 80. Which is useful on Unison heavy patches.
You also get a new set of wavetable based sounds and a new oscillator - the infamous Hypersaw. So you can build alot of sounds on it that you cannot on the Virus C. But other than that they are essentially the same synth not taking into account the VSTi interface.
The huge downside to the Ti is that it suffers from some of the problems that the Moog Little Phatty does - too many variables controlled by 1 knob. I regard the VC as having the best designed control surface give or take for all the Virus models and its the best compromise. The Ti is too cramped for my liking. I guess you could use the VST plugin but man, don't knock the control surface on the Virus. It has seriously good workflow and once you get used to it and figure out where everything is on the synth, then you just can't go back. The idea of programming a Virus using a plugin just seems, well, 'wrong' to me now :\
Whether the Ti is worth the price difference depends on who you ask. For me personally? Nah. I could get a Pro One, a Juno 60 and an Alesis Fusion 6 and a Virus B for that kind of outlay. And still have money left over to buy ice cream. Or something. |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | Originally posted by jey
is there a vst controler for the ti??? have one for the waldorf pulse!
i prefer tweaking on screen, like to keep my head pointing the one direction as i edit sounds....
looked at the ti on ebay, kinda pricy! is it much better than the virus c?? |
seriously, look into it and you would know...
TI stands for Total Integration, need I say more? |
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| mysticalninja |
| quote: | Originally posted by RichieV
people worrying about the plugin going obsolete should realise that all synths will be obsolte in that future softsynths will always be better.The software in 5 years will probably make the TI obsolete. |
i seriously doubt ppl will start making their high end synths software... the best ones will stay VA or else your just asking to get pirated. |
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| Storyteller |
| And that's where the powercore pluing card comes in. |
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