So awesome. Probably should be in music discussion but it'll probably get better feedback here :p
MrJiveBoJingles
I admire the talent and dedication required to pull off something like that, but extended, intricate solos (especially on plucked instruments, for some reason) never strike me as very "musical," so they remain mostly uninteresting to me.
idoru
The man has some incredible talent (and has probably suffered through a load of calluses) and is one of the reasons I want to start playing Bass again. My favorite piece of his solo is between shortly before his string breaks just before where he drops to half-time, and then ends where he stops playing in half-time.
The video reminds me of something that I think is lacking from EDM. It's not so much evident in this video, but moreso in the early Jazz era, where after concerts the various big bands would get together in a secluded area and jam non-stop for five, six, seven hours, improving and building off of one another, etc.
Yeah, there's a certain amount of that in what DJs and live acts do, but not just absolute total improvisation. It'd be nice to see live acts (Underworld does this to a certain extent now, and they really did it back in the day) incorporate much more improvisation and such in their sets, absolutely butt-ing their synths and creating random tunes on-the-fly and going, "Oh , that works!" and just keep going and going until they get cut off, instead of just letting a track play out and then play it the same way for the next few years (see: The Chems live sets).
I don't think that explained it too well, but eh.
MrJiveBoJingles
The problem is that quite a few electronic musicians have neither the musical knowledge nor the "chops" to pull off something like that. It would be neat if that happened, though.
idoru
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
The problem is that quite a few electronic musicians have neither the musical knowledge nor the "chops" to pull off something like that. It would be neat if that happened, though.
This is true, and also something EDM needs more of.
jupiterone
I think the EDM community for one lacks a lot of heart really. It has way too many genre's under its belt and seems more like a constant battle between which one people like better and which one people think is better.
But also as stated EDM artists don't really have much musical knowledge. Anyone can really align beats together with practice. It'd be nice to see something along the lines of a more improv' performance.
Not sure if I'm making much sense but I think ya get where I'm getting at.
But hey my opinion. I might be ignorant a bit and if I am then educate my post.
tranceDJ
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Originally posted by idoru
The man has some incredible talent (and has probably suffered through a load of calluses) and is one of the reasons I want to start playing Bass again. My favorite piece of his solo is between shortly before his string breaks just before where he drops to half-time, and then ends where he stops playing in half-time.
The video reminds me of something that I think is lacking from EDM. It's not so much evident in this video, but moreso in the early Jazz era, where after concerts the various big bands would get together in a secluded area and jam non-stop for five, six, seven hours, improving and building off of one another, etc.
Yeah, there's a certain amount of that in what DJs and live acts do, but not just absolute total improvisation. It'd be nice to see live acts (Underworld does this to a certain extent now, and they really did it back in the day) incorporate much more improvisation and such in their sets, absolutely butt-ing their synths and creating random tunes on-the-fly and going, "Oh , that works!" and just keep going and going until they get cut off, instead of just letting a track play out and then play it the same way for the next few years (see: The Chems live sets).
I don't think that explained it too well, but eh.
I would throw in bands such as The Grateful Dead, The Allman Brothers, and Phish too as far as the improvisational thing...bands like these showcased how good they were and how much control they had over their instruments by being able to create incredible music on the spot, never playing some of their songs the same way twice.
DJs (at least those who play EDM) are limited in their abilities, they only have pre-recorded tracks to deal with and can only add effects to them here and there. This is changing with things like Ableton where the DJ can do things on the fly which IMO adds excitement and unpredictability to the DJ's set. The live PA thing is cool too and allows for music to be create spontaneously, you just don't see many EDM groups doing it. I think the whole just mixing records together got old a long time ago, DJs need to bring fresh ideas into their sets to keep them interesting and to keep people's attention.
tranceDJ
And if anyone's wondering...thats Victor Wooten playing the bass. The rest of the band is Bela Fleck and The Flecktones...amazing band.
Lilith
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
The problem is that quite a few electronic musicians have neither the musical knowledge nor the "chops" to pull off something like that. It would be neat if that happened, though.
For that you sort of want to look back a bit further around the EBM scene instead from the producers there who rely mostly on keyboards, drum machines, bass players, occasional guitarist or drummer and samplers rather than the pure-computer driven stuff we see mostly now. Not a conventional 'rock band' in the same sense but closer to band in a lot more ways than the average dance music composer.
eROs.au
neat
SuspicionVandit
woooow
the horrible FPS of youtube on my laptop makes it seem like its fast forwarded
serially, very wicked!
he not even looking at the frets sometimes!
also, the comment about EDM artists... tiesto is almost as good as hellen keller in piano
mezzir
also worth checking out: he does a version of amazing grace, and jammed with the dave matthews band's #41, both of which are on youtube
