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| Dr. DAS |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
This is not a debate moral or ethical issues surrounding the procedure. As you stated above - the discussion is focused on the health benefits.
Medical benefits are based on current research (not ethical diatribes from 4+ years ago) and clearly show that the procedure significantly reduces the risk of transmission of HIV amongst heterosexual males (which I think any reasonable person would conclude is a health benefit). |
"Infant male circumcision was once considered a preventive health measure and was therefore adopted extensively in Western countries. Current understanding of the benefits, risks and potential harm of this procedure, however, no longer supports this practice for prophylactic health benefit. "
^^^This sounds like more than just an ethical standpoint.
You are right however, that when I posted "no distinct health or hygene benefits associated with circumcision.", I could have phrased this much more effectively. While obviously the research you cite clearly indicates a reduction in the aquisition of HIV in males, this data does not effectively address the Canadian perspective. All of the data was assembled in the 2nd and 3rd worlds.
HIV transmission aside, I do not believe that a crew neck is any cleaner than a turtleneck as long as basic hygene is maintained.
Perhaps some insight from the ladies and the gay community: Do you notice a difference in...(flavour:crazy: )the apparent hygene between circumcised and non-circumcised men? |
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| Silky Johnson |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dr. DAS
Perhaps some insight from the ladies and the gay community: Do you notice a difference in...(flavour:crazy:)the apparent hygene between circumcised and non-circumcised men? |
Yes, if he doesn't take care of it properly. Foreskin = a nice place for smegma to hang out. |
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| Cosmic Fur |
| This thread took a turn that I did not foresee when I was making it :/ |
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| Dr. DAS |
| quote: | Originally posted by jennypie
Yes, if he doesn't take care of it properly. Foreskin = a nice place for smegma to hang out. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smegma
a.k.a. 'dick cheese' |
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| Cosmic Fur |
Yeah, we all know what smegma is, thanks. |
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| Dr. DAS |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Yeah, we all know what smegma is, thanks. |
Hey, just doing my part for public education.
I don't remember hearing about this in sex ed.
Thanks Jenny for the estro-insight. Any medical opinion on this given your course of study? |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
medical reasons here in north America are useless. |
The only reason one would speculate it to be "useless in North America" is because HIV/AIDS is not an epidemic here (as it is in Afrika).
Unfortunately I don't think the fact that AIDS isn't as common here means the research is invalid or not applicable.
The research still shows that a male who is circumcised is LESS LIKELY (vs. one who is uncircumcised) to contract HIV than one who isn't (infection rates aside). |
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| Jeff Button |
You guys realize you are talking about each others cocks right? We know one of you is circumsized, the other is not and you both prefer your method of tip. We get it.
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| Dr. DAS |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
The only reason one would speculate it to be "useless in North America" is because HIV/AIDS is not an epidemic here (as it is in Afrika).
Unfortunately I don't think the fact that AIDS isn't as common here means the research is invalid or not applicable.
The research still shows that a male who is circumcised is LESS LIKELY (vs. one who is uncircumcised) to transmit HIV than one who isn't (infection rates aside). |
To clarify: The evidence supports a reduction in male infection by having unprotected sex with an infected female. Circumcision has no effect on transmission.
I'm not saying the research is invalid, but I will say less applicable. Strapping on a condom is a much more effective and marginally less painful option than taking the knife to ol' Johnny.
Circumcision in Africa is being suggested to control a pandemic (which, without getting into a semantic arguement is more correct nomenclature for the state of HIV/AIDS in Africa than epidemic). |
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| Dr. DAS |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jeff Button
You guys realize you are talking about each others cocks right? We know one of you is circumsized, the other is not and you both prefer your method of tip. We get it.
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No, I'm talking about MY cock. And from your emoticon, this makes you horny??? |
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| Cribby |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
This thread is useless without pics!!! |
:stongue: I'd expect Jay to make this comment, not you. |
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| zoogla |
| Hey Deems thx for making my thread re: cell number change seem brilliant! :toothless |
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