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Gun Control in America (pg. 6)
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| WM2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
far far harder to kill anyone with your bare hands than it is with a firearm. far harder also to accidentally kill someone with your bare hands.
yes, people might revert back to other methods, and all other methods are less lethal. |
Which once again brings up the point that if people want to kill someone they're going to regardless of the methods they use. This means your argument is totally devoid of meaning. Your only concern in this entire matter is that lives are being lost, and all of us keep pointing out to you that no matter what you do lives are going to be taken.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
We have here a mortality number of almost 2.4 million in 2004. In the last numbers I can find (2005) the deaths due to firearms were around 30,000. So we can assume a similar number with a slight increase to 32,000 maybe, for fun. That's a massive 1.3% of all deaths in the U.S. Then you account for the part of that 32,000 which were most likely suicides based off the average overall for 2005 which was 58% which leaves ruffly 13,440 homicides. Thats an even more impressive .56% of all deaths in the U.S.
So what's that again about us being so ed cause we have guns?
Just for fun, 27% of the deaths were from heart diseases, so maybe you should say we're ed cause we have Big Mac's instead of guns. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by WM2
Which once again brings up the point that if people want to kill someone they're going to regardless of the methods they use. This means your argument is totally devoid of meaning. Your only concern in this entire matter is that lives are being lost, and all of us keep pointing out to you that no matter what you do lives are going to be taken. |
fine then. by that line of reasoning it would be perfectly acceptable to give people their own personal nuclear weapons :rolleyes:
guns dont kill people, people kill people. with guns. |
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| ResonantDrag |
obligatory at this point, i apologize for my lack of taste
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| Lilith |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
guns dont kill people, kids that listen to heavy metal that emo music, play Role playing games computer games and wear black, kill people. with guns. |
fixed :p |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lilith
fixed :p |
lol, oh no!
play computer games? check.
play role playing games? check.
listen to heavy music? check.
love guns? check.
hate going to work, and hate my co-workers? check.
it could be me next! |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
lol, oh no!
play computer games? check.
play role playing games? check.
listen to heavy music? check.
love guns? check.
hate going to work, and hate my co-workers? check.
it could be me next! |
Forwards post to the authorities his mom... :p |
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| WM2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
fine then. by that line of reasoning it would be perfectly acceptable to give people their own personal nuclear weapons :rolleyes:
guns dont kill people, people kill people. with guns. |
Actually, no. The cost would be astronomical, and the effects on our environment would be pretty bad.
You're right though. People do kill people. With guns, home utensils, tools, knives, their bare hands, cars, all kinds of stuff really. Out of all of those people do it the most with cars. Sometimes cars and guns. |
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| Philby |
how come it is in the american constitution that you have the right to bear arms? is that because of the way the country was founded? why can't you change it? is it that necessary for the country to function?
| quote: | Originally posted by WM2
Which once again brings up the point that if people want to kill someone they're going to regardless of the methods they use. This means your argument is totally devoid of meaning. Your only concern in this entire matter is that lives are being lost, and all of us keep pointing out to you that no matter what you do lives are going to be taken.
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well maybe, but if you wake up one day, everything has gotten to you, you snap, you go to uni and you find that bitch that broke your heart, you fill up with rage and you.....run over and try to strangle her, or hit her with a hammer, or stab her, you will probably find that it is pretty tough, maybe you won't be able to kill her, maybe a whole bunch of people will jump on you and stop you, maybe in the middle of it you'll think it was a bad decision.
if you do that with a gun, its all over a lot sooner, you could quickly turn around and shoot someone else, people will be screaming and running away, maybe less people or nobody will jump on you, you could just keep on going.
if i really wanted to kill someone and only had a hammer or my hands then yes i could probably do it. however it would be a lot harder for me to go on a "hammer spree" and kill 30 people then myself with said hammer or hands. |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Capitalizt
We should loosen gun laws. If everybody in society was potentially strapped, criminals would be scared less, and robberies would drop to almost 0%
When you ban guns, only criminals will have them. You are giving them a field day. |
That's definitely how it worked in Washington, D.C. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Philby
how come it is in the american constitution that you have the right to bear arms? is that because of the way the country was founded? why can't you change it? is it that necessary for the country to function? |
It's written into the constitution, which after over 200 years is still in effect, it's extremely hard to change it. You need an absolute majority of like 2/3, not 51-49% votes. Those votes definately don't exist in the USA. It's so easy, I plan on buying an semi-auto Romanian AK-47 from the internet for like 400$, have it shipped to a gun dealer.
Anyways, the amendmant talks about militias being able to defend themselves against an oppresive government. It's about the power of the people being manifested in an armed citizenry which is much much harder to oppress. |
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| Trancer-X |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
It's written into the constitution, which after over 200 years is still in effect, it's extremely hard to change it. You need an absolute majority of like 2/3, not 51-49% votes. Those votes definately don't exist in the USA. It's so easy, I plan on buying an semi-auto Romanian AK-47 from the internet for like 400$, have it shipped to a gun dealer.
Anyways, the amendmant talks about militias being able to defend themselves against an oppresive government. It's about the power of the people being manifested in an armed citizenry which is much much harder to oppress. |
You should spend the extra money and get a 9mm converted AR-15. It's more reliable, much more accurate and you can take it to just about any shooting range in the U.S. ;) 9mm bullets are very cheap so you'd probably save in the long run! |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Trancer-X
You should spend the extra money and get a 9mm converted AR-15. It's more reliable, much more accurate and you can take it to just about any shooting range in the U.S. ;) 9mm bullets are very cheap so you'd probably save in the long run! |
How much are they? Internet or gun shop? |
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