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| star-traveller |
| quote: | Up to 200 killed in Baghdad bombs
A US troop "surge" has not stopped insurgent attacks
Nearly 200 people have been killed in a string of attacks in Iraq's capital, Baghdad - the worst day of violence since a US security operation began.
In one of the deadliest attacks of the last four years, some 140 people were killed in a car bombing in a food market in Sadriya district.
A witness said the area had been turned into "a swimming pool of blood".
The attacks came as PM Nouri Maliki said Iraqi forces would take control of security across Iraq by the year's end.
US Defence Secretary Robert Gates said the attacks were "a horrifying thing," but said insurgents would not derail the ongoing security drive in Baghdad.
'Burned alive'
The bomb in Shia-dominated Sadriya was reportedly left in a parked car and exploded at about 1600 (1200 GMT) in the middle of a crowd of workers and shoppers.
The market was being rebuilt after it was destroyed by a bombing in February which killed more than 130 people.
The powerful bomb started a fire which swept over cars and minibuses parked nearby, burning many people and sending a large plume of smoke over Baghdad.
BAGHDAD ATTACKS
Sadriya: Car bomb kills 140 at market
Sadr City: Car bomb kills at least 35 at checkpoint
Karrada: Car bomb near private hospital kills at least 11
Al-Shurja: Minibus bomb kills at least two people
Two other attacks kill about 11 more people
Bombs mar handover plan
In pictures: Baghdad carnage
Television pictures showed a blasted scene littered with blackened and twisted wreckage.
One witness told the Reuters news agency that many of the victims were women and children.
"I saw dozens of dead bodies," the man said. "Some people were burned alive inside minibuses. Nobody could reach them after the explosion.
"There were pieces of flesh all over the place."
Ahmed Hameed, a shopkeeper in the area said: "The street was transformed into a swimming pool of blood."
About an hour earlier, a suicide car bomb attack on a police checkpoint in Sadr City killed 35 people.
Another parked car bomb killed at least 11 people near a hospital in the Karrada district of Baghdad, while in al-Shurja district at least two people were killed by a bomb left on a minibus.
Two other attacks in the capital killed and wounded about 11 more people.
Hospitals in Baghdad were inundated with more than 200 injured people, many of them with serious burns from the bomb at the Sadriya market.
As the number of people killed in the Sadriya market bombing continued to climb, Prime Minister Maliki ordered the detention of the Iraqi army commander responsible for security in that area.
Car and suicide bombings have occurred almost daily in Baghdad in recent months, despite a US-led security crackdown since February.
The bombers are proving that they can slip through the tightened security net and defy the clampdown, says the BBC's Jim Muir in Baghdad.
Security handover
Most of the attacks have been in Shia areas, increasing pressure for the Shia militias to step up their campaign of reprisal killings against the Sunni community in which the insurgents are based, says our correspondent.
As Baghdad was rocked by explosions, security in Maysan province to the south was transferred from British to Iraqi control.
MAJOR ATTACKS
6 March 2007: 90 killed in double suicide bombing in Hilla
3 Feb 2007: 130 killed in lorry bomb in a Baghdad market in mainly Shia area
2 Dec 2006: More than 50 killed in car bombs in same Baghdad market
23 Nov 2006: 200 killed in wave of car bombings and mortar blasts in Baghdad's Shia Sadr City
7 April 2006: 85 killed in triple suicide bombing at Shia mosque in Baghdad
Maysan is the fourth of the country's 18 provinces to be handed over to Iraqi security control.
Iraq's national security adviser Mowaffak al-Rubaie said the three provinces of the autonomous Kurdish region would be next.
"Then it will be province by province until we achieve [the complete transfer] before the end of the year," he said in a speech at the handover ceremony delivered on behalf of Prime Minister Maliki.
On Monday, the Iraqi parliament bloc loyal to radical cleric Moqtada Sadr withdrew from the cabinet, demanding Mr Maliki set a timetable for a US troop withdrawal.
But foreign troops are likely to remain in Iraq for some time.
Analysts say that even if Iraqi forces take the lead in providing security across the country, they will need support from US and other coalition troops.
The attacks in Baghdad came as officials from more than 60 countries attended a UN conference in Geneva on the plight of Iraqi refugees.
The UN estimates up to 50,000 people flee the violence in Iraq each month. |
Up to 200 killed in Baghdad bombs
I'm wondering does the US care AT ALL about the situation overthere?
When will they withdraw their occupation forces out of the Iraqi soil? |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by star-traveller
Up to 200 killed in Baghdad bombs
I'm wondering does the US care AT ALL about the situation overthere?
When will they withdraw their occupation forces out of the Iraqi soil? |
Would it matter even if they did leave? I'll bet you not.
Remember the States are there trying to keep the damn place from turning into one big blood bath since they've obviously never resolved their cultural differences amoungst themselves... |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Would it matter even if they did leave? I'll bet you not.
Remember the States are there trying to keep the damn place from turning into one big blood bath since they've obviously never resolved their cultural differences amoungst themselves... |
First, there was no such bloodbath before the invasion ... secondly, at this pace, it will keep getting worse or being bad like it is. You dont care if 100 innocent people get bombed every day? Whats the government doing aboout it? Its hapless. Weak. Incompetent. If US withdraws, much sooner a real government will develop to stabilize the country. Americans have failed and are still failing and will continue failing. And even if Americans are withdrawn innocent people will continue to die, but sooner a real government with strong ends come to power and put this crap to an end. Current leadership is failing big time.
Americans should start co-operating more with the spiritual leaders of the religious groups, the groups that have power and influence, and not install puppets who can barely patrol their own offices on their own. This way Americans can manipulate these spiritual leaders from the distance and make treaties to achieve better stability in Iraq. Or it will be cheaper to buy them off instead of paying for the war. Aren't Americans the world experts at manipulating government and overthrowing leaders? |
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| star-traveller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Would it matter even if they did leave? I'll bet you not.
Remember the States are there trying to keep the damn place from turning into one big blood bath since they've obviously never resolved their cultural differences amoungst themselves... |
What are you talking about? Remember what? Where the hell did you get this opinion from? Can you give me at least one bloody example of the States trying to keep that damn place in peace?
All I see after they occupied the Iraq that people are dying and their forces are the only one who responsible for that.
Today it's now like a cliche saying "The States are trying to keep Iraq in peace". Nobody gives any on elaborating this. |
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| LazFX |
| quote: | Originally posted by star-traveller
Today it's now like a cliche saying "The States are trying to keep Iraq in peace". Nobody gives any on elaborating this. |
actually no one really give a on replying to your Assembly Line Stamped posts that just spew hate and anger toward a people YOU HAVE NO ING CLUE ABOUT!
so FOAD!
and again, how many people died from American Soldiers in Bagdad? Its not America, but the people in Iraq that are killing each other....
but I am sure your mind is too full of hate and pride, in what I don't know, to see how STUPID you look to others when you tow that usual tripe you are so known for here at TA... |
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| star-traveller |
| Man, I noticed that long time ago, all you can do when you don't have any arguments is to switch on personalities. |
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| XaNaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
First, there was no such bloodbath before the invasion
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No sherlock, the country was controled by a brutal dictator who killed anyone who opposed him.
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
... secondly, at this pace, it will keep getting worse or being bad like it is. You dont care if 100 innocent people get bombed every day? Whats the government doing aboout it? Its hapless. Weak. Incompetent. If US withdraws, much sooner a real government will develop to stabilize the country. Americans have failed and are still failing and will continue failing. And even if Americans are withdrawn innocent people will continue to die, but sooner a real government with strong ends come to power and put this crap to an end. Current leadership is failing big time.
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If the American forces withdraw you can bet your ass another brutal dictator will rise to power in that country. If we leave do you really think that people who are blowing themselves up in markets and killing civilians are going to sit down at a table and make nice and draw up a constitutional government? I think not. Unfortunately we have opened up Pandora's Box in Iraq and I personally feel that no matter what the politicians say we will be there for years to come keeping that country from falling apart. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
First, there was no such bloodbath before the invasion ...
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You sure that might have a little to do with the previous totalitarian regime?
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secondly, at this pace, it will keep getting worse or being bad like it is. You dont care if 100 innocent people get bombed every day? Whats the government doing aboout it? Its hapless. Weak. Incompetent. If US withdraws, much sooner a real government will develop to stabilize the country. Americans have failed and are still failing and will continue failing. And even if Americans are withdrawn innocent people will continue to die, but sooner a real government with strong ends come to power and put this crap to an end. Current leadership is failing big time.
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Big fat red [X] for you.
100 innocent people would be inflated to a lot larger number and you know it.
That place would turn into a free-for-all amongst the current war-lords that are currently causing the problems, vying for power.
Your 'real' government, without some guidance, has a huge probability of becoming just another dictator.
Maybe you can explain to the class WHY the world would want to get rid of one evil man for another?
This bed of roses you lay just isn't compatible with the real world situation at hand.
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Americans should start co-operating more with the spiritual leaders of the religious groups, the groups that have power and influence, and not install puppets who can barely patrol their own offices on their own. This way Americans can manipulate these spiritual leaders from the distance and make treaties to achieve better stability in Iraq. Or it will be cheaper to buy them off instead of paying for the war. Aren't Americans the world experts at manipulating government and overthrowing leaders? |
I do agree that more dialogue should be open to the Imams and other spiritual leaders in the region for stability.
Deals should be struck and the unforutnate part about that is the States past and their 'deals'.
It was unfortunate for the States that Saddam got a fat head; they were at least willing to mop up their own mess and of course, are not paying for that.
Lets hope whomever they decide to prop this time around doesn't get an ego problem as well...
To suggest, 'in order to manipulate' shows a biased foreshadowing in order to setup an argument of, 'I told you so'; weak. :rolleyes:
In any degotiation, one can't 'control' the other side 100%.
The best we can hope for is that both sides that trust each other enough to move on from this hatred so that everyone can move forward. |
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| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Would it matter even if they did leave? I'll bet you not.
Remember the States are there trying to keep the damn place from turning into one big blood bath since they've obviously never resolved their cultural differences amoungst themselves... |
LOL, man you're ing retarded! |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
LOL, man you're ing retarded! |
Am I?
Why did the Dems vote to keep the troops there then huh?
I'm sure you have a logical explaination, so spill it oh wiseman ;) |
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| star-traveller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Am I?
Why did the Dems vote to keep the troops there then huh?
I'm sure you have a logical explaination, so spill it oh wiseman ;) |
Because it's ING POPULAR and they need to win some ty votes from an ignorant population.
OH man, don't tell me you didn't know that the US is just a bigger form of any corporation. Power and Money are the only things people on top desire. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| I am really begening to think Firestarter really belives all this that has says on this board.Like , are you that brainwashed that you cant even admit that this Iraq war is a in lost cause? |
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