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The MIDI protocol. I hate it. (pg. 2)
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| AuxiliaryInput |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
MIDI's just a standard, not a specific technology. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's broken - how long has TCP/IP been around for (and how [un]successful has the push to IPv6 been)?
I personally do not want to see a whole bunch of offshoot technologies. It's really, really hard to get manufacturers to agree on a standard and the amount of support MIDI has is almost unprecedented in any technological industry. Anything new is bound to just it all up.
Anyway, it really sounds like the problem is your hardware, because MIDI as an interface isn't inherently unstable or unreliable. With any standard, you will always find several people who have done a crappy job of implementing it (i.e. Microsoft with JavaScript/ECMAScript and CSS, to name a well-known example). In particular, a lot of software and hardware just has really ty MIDI timing because they don't bother with a decent real-time clock. Try a different controller or an external sync, maybe you'll have better luck. |
I never said it was broken. It works, I'm just saying that it could be better.
HD-MIDI sounds interesting. I hope it'd be backwards compatible with MIDI. It probably is. Just like USB 2 and USB 1 |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by AuxiliaryInput
I never said it was broken. It works, I'm just saying that it could be better. |
You're complaining that you find it slow and unstable. I'm telling you it's your hardware. No changes to an interface will fix a poor implementation. |
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| Rusty O'Hara |
I know Yamaha was looking at "mLan"; though not really taking off.
The main problem would be the general consensus required amongst manufacturers all pushing their idea of the latest standard.
Similar to the old VHS vs Beta, and CD vs SCD vs HDCD etc
The main thing is the backward capability; your old hardware gear is not going to be redone to any new standard, and think about the level of available (ie: existing) hardware versus new available gear.
Me personally, I have no problems with the midi standard.
Sure it could be better, and a distinct new level midi for the 21st century could be cool, but I'm fine with what I've got. |
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| mysticalninja |
| Might of been said already but transfering a bank of 127 sounds takes like 1 second on the TI with usb. |
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| Synchronicity |
| I'm lucky if my Virus Classic lasts an 8 minute song without drifting out of time. I doubt if this happens to every Virus B/Classic user, so it's my interface and/or software. Lot's of people have midi timing issues, it's a crap system and needs changed to two way cables that stay in ing time. |
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| camsr |
| Couldn't USB be easily used to replace MIDI for just about everything it does? |
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| Mikk |
| quote: | Originally posted by camsr
Couldn't USB be easily used to replace MIDI for just about everything it does? |
On future products, why not. On the loved and praised classic synths used all over the world, no ;) It's a standard used everywhere. |
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| AuxiliaryInput |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
You're complaining that you find it slow and unstable. I'm telling you it's your hardware. No changes to an interface will fix a poor implementation. |
It's not my poor setup. It takes 20 seconds or more to transfer a bank for me. Like it should do. But 20 seconds is quite much I think. Also, having a long transfer like that can cause interuptions. And it's been happening to me a lot.
| quote: | Originally posted by CReddick
I'm not hearing you on the Virus Bank transfer... I can dump and receive a whole bank on my Virus in a matter of 20 seconds. When it does come to raw data transfer, yes it is slow. Agreed. Updating the firmware on my PodXT Pro takes significantly longer over MIDI than usb. its an old protocol, oh well. |
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| AuxiliaryInput |
| Gah, I just woke up, and when I look at this thread, I see myself overreacting. I don't really hate it, I don't like it. And I think it could be better. |
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| Subtle |
| I think all future synths will have USB connection, in addition to MIDI.. so it is changning, for the better. |
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| RichieV |
| OSC was supposed to be the next thing |
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| DeZmA |
If you own or have seen the virus TI in action I highly doubt there will ever be a new generation midi. Vst integration makes you wonder how you dealt with CC and sysex (especially the latter one) commands for all those years. I do believe that it will be implemented for years to come for compatibility reasons.
In fact, with all the new fancy gear and synths these days, you can't understand how much crap music there is on the trance market (remember the old days with ferry corsten and mike for example before they decided to start making crap) - but that's another discussion :) - |
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