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EQ mixing what's there to it? (pg. 2)
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| cmay119 |
I'm glad somebody has asked this question, I'm also in the same boat really getting EQ'ing down correctly. Should I be looking at EQ'ing the same way as beatmatching? What I mean by that is, do I want to be cutting/increasing gain on low/mid/highs every 4 bars? Or can I just slowly increase/decrease throughout the transition? What's the general rule of thumb, concerning this?
Thanks for the help. :) |
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| Ryan0751 |
There isn't really any rules... as long as it sounds good.
Usually if you are doing a quick "switch" or something it will sound more musical to do it on phrase.
| quote: | Originally posted by cmay119
I'm glad somebody has asked this question, I'm also in the same boat really getting EQ'ing down correctly. Should I be looking at EQ'ing the same way as beatmatching? What I mean by that is, do I want to be cutting/increasing gain on low/mid/highs every 4 bars? Or can I just slowly increase/decrease throughout the transition? What's the general rule of thumb, concerning this?
Thanks for the help. :) |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | | do I want to be cutting/increasing gain on low/mid/highs every 4 bars? Or can I just slowly increase/decrease throughout the transition? What's the general rule of thumb, concerning this? |
lol you are going to sound pretty boring if this is how you think
that's like telling a saxophone player to only blow exactly with 2 atm of pressure against the reed when the music tells them 'piano'...
| quote: | | There isn't really any rules... as long as it sounds good. |
what he says ^ in general just try to imagine you are a musician and be expressive.
if you are an obnoxious person, then it will probably come out in your eqing. i don't have to like it, but just be yourself and practice with what you like to hear what more needs to be said? you already understand that eqing on phrase and on events is a different operation than slowly manipulating a band over time - so that's all you need to know. some anal retentive and bored deejays like to constantly fiddle with tiny warbling effects on breakdowns, etc
either you use eqing in such a way that it is not heard explicitly but makes the mix smoother, or you make a point of eqing, because sometimes it can make a crowd wild, but just don't be half assed about it - make it a coherent musical expression, you know? |
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| cmay119 |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
lol you are going to sound pretty boring if this is how you think
that's like telling a saxophone player to only blow exactly with 2 atm of pressure against the reed when the music tells them 'piano'...
what he says ^ in general just try to imagine you are a musician and be expressive.
if you are an obnoxious person, then it will probably come out in your eqing. i don't have to like it, but just be yourself and practice with what you like to hear what more needs to be said? you already understand that eqing on phrase and on events is a different operation than slowly manipulating a band over time - so that's all you need to know. some anal retentive and bored deejays like to constantly fiddle with tiny warbling effects on breakdowns, etc
either you use eqing in such a way that it is not heard explicitly but makes the mix smoother, or you make a point of eqing, because sometimes it can make a crowd wild, but just don't be half assed about it - make it a coherent musical expression, you know? |
Definately, thanks for the help. Yeah, I've only been DJ'ing for about 5 months, and so far I've gotten beat matching/phrasing down pretty well, however, my recorded mixes still sounded like somebody beating a mule because of poor EQ'ing/volume control. Just wanted to know the best way to smoothly transition between tracks almost 'covertly', meaning not knowing when the new track starts to the previous tracks end. |
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| agentdansmith |
| Also, remember that not all mixes need to be smooth transitions - personally I love it when a track kicks in with some force :toocool: |
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| epdarks |
| I agree. Nothing gets me dancing like a mix I can really HEAR. At the same time who doesn't love smooth mixing from the likes of Digweed or Desyn etc... a place for everything I guess. |
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| cmay119 |
| Haha Dan, Thanks for being on my wavelength man. Desyn was the exact DJ I was thinking of when trying to describe the 'Covert' Mix. |
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| Spoonz |
| bottom line... u have got the theory, or at least with the posts above u should have now... so it's time for u to practise and experiment with diff tracks and maybe diff styles... finding something u like n keep at it. i too have only got round to learning eqing, makes a mix sound so much cleaner and tidier. less likely to have problems with ur levels too . |
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| Storyteller |
| I'd just say, cut freqs on the track that deserves the least attention. If mids are conflicting, turn track A down a bit (enough for the mix to sound clean) if it's track B you want them to hear :). In the end it's just practise as has already been posted. Just try it ;) |
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| Arnozilla |
| Hey, I've been Djing since like 1 month and I got my EQing skillz like in 1 day! Is it that I just played so much with traktor that I just got good or is it that I suck without knowing it? I mean EQing to me is the simpliest thing in the world :wtf: |
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| discobiscuit |
| quote: | Originally posted by agentdansmith
Also, remember that not all mixes need to be smooth transitions - personally I love it when a track kicks in with some force :toocool: |
yes, i love it when armin drops the right track at exactly the right time. sometimes mixing isnt even needed.... |
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| discobiscuit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Storyteller
I'd just say, cut freqs on the track that deserves the least attention. If mids are conflicting, turn track A down a bit (enough for the mix to sound clean) if it's track B you want them to hear :). In the end it's just practise as has already been posted. Just try it ;) |
i hate when mids conflict!!!! imo its the worst thing that can happen during a mix... (besides equip failure) |
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