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girl stoned to death in Iraq .... WTF is wrong with this world? (pg. 3)
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Fast Turtle
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Originally posted by nchs09
i really dont see your point. the thread is about the girl in iraq, if a video was psoted about a girl in africa, the reactions would be the same. plus i dont think people are unaware of what happens in africa....

well maybe there are a couple of idiots, but most poeple do know and do care.


No, they wouldn't. I haven't seen any threads about the Darfur conflict in recent history, despite 450,000 people dying there, and God knows how many human rights violations and rapes have occurred as well.

How about the trafficking of human sex slaves from Eastern Europe? And the tens of thousands of prisoners held their for political dissent of their totalitarian governments (eg Uzbekistan)? Atrocities are happening everywhere.
Sunsnail
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Originally posted by Fast Turtle
No, they wouldn't. I haven't seen any threads about the Darfur conflict in recent history, despite 450,000 people dying there, and God knows how many human rights violations and rapes have occurred as well.

How about the trafficking of human sex slaves from Eastern Europe? And the tens of thousands of prisoners held their for political dissent of their totalitarian governments (eg Uzbekistan)? Atrocities are happening everywhere.


So as soon as someone DOES point out something wrong with the world you get upset? that.
nchs09
gosh you are an idiot. to say that poeple dont care because they feel pitty for the girl that got stoned is stupid. guess what i feel pitty for bums here in atlanta.. doesnt mean i cant also not feel pitty for what goes on in africa.
Jake Benson
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Originally posted by Fast Turtle
No, they wouldn't. I haven't seen any threads about the Darfur conflict in recent history, despite 450,000 people dying there, and God knows how many human rights violations and rapes have occurred as well.


Maybe if they record the violence with their cell phones and cameras we can.

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How about the trafficking of human sex slaves from Eastern Europe? And the tens of thousands of prisoners held their for political dissent of their totalitarian governments (eg Uzbekistan)? Atrocities are happening everywhere.


How about not nullifying a normal reaction to a girl getting stone to death by giving other cases of atrocities. If you want to post an "everthing that's wrong with the world" thread then do it. But this one's specific.
Fast Turtle
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Originally posted by Sunsnail
So as soon as someone DOES point out something wrong with the world you get upset? that.


I'm just frustrated by the people who see this and say, "Oh, that sure is awful", while they're ignorant of all else going on in the world. I never said this was insignificant.
Jake Benson
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Originally posted by Fast Turtle
I'm just frustrated by the people who see this and say, "Oh, that sure is awful", while they're ignorant of all else going on in the world. I never said this was insignificant.


What makes you think they're ignoring everything else? If I see someone killing another person I don't think to myself, "That's terrible, but everything is terrible, so I shouldn't be so shocked?."
spiflicated
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Originally posted by Fast Turtle
I'm just frustrated by the people who see this and say, "Oh, that sure is awful", while they're ignorant of all else going on in the world. I never said this was insignificant.


Oh, that sure is awful.
Fast Turtle
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Originally posted by Jake Benson
What makes you think they're ignoring everything else? If I see someone killing another person I don't think to myself, "That's terrible, but everything is terrible, so I shouldn't be so shocked?."


I probably am desensitized, but the way I see it, you may as well concentrate on the big problems before you care much about the small ones. I'm not much for sensationalism; I feel much worse about seeing things like 'genocide' and 'starvation'.
Jake Benson
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Originally posted by Fast Turtle
I probably am desensitized, but the way I see it, you may as well concentrate on the big problems before you care much about the small ones.


I am not desensitized and the way I see it, I take each case scenario as it is and don't try to rationalize it by comparing it to other terrifying case scenarios. If someone gets caught stealing, I'm sure the judge doesn't say, "You stole and stealing is wrong, but murder is also wrong and you didn't do that. I'm not saying what you did is right thief, but wow man...I mean murder...why don't we just stop paying attention to your stealing habits and think about murder."
Fast Turtle
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Originally posted by Jake Benson
I am not desensitized and the way I see it, I take each case scenario as it is and don't try to rationalize it by comparing it to other terrifying case scenarios. If someone gets caught stealing, I'm sure the judge doesn't say, "You stole and stealing is wrong, but murder is also wrong and you didn't do that. I'm not saying what you did is right thief, but wow man...I mean murder...why don't we just stop paying attention to your stealing habits and think about murder."


No, but if you were put on a jury and before you was brought a thief and a murderer, and you have to sentence one to life and let the other go, which would you choose? The sentences served for murder and theft are incongruent for good reason.

See those advertisements on the side of these news pages? These are what pay to have this information delivered to us. It's targeted to us in the belief that we'll care, see the advertisements they display, and they'll get paid. The media is an industry, not a humanitarian organization.

Lebezniatnikov
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Originally posted by nchs09
if a video was psoted about a girl in africa, the reactions would be the same.


Ummmm... Rwanda? The Congo? Darfur? Sierra Leone? Uganda?

Videos are on CNN all the time... but because we can't blame them on some "enemy religion" we don't care/notice/do anything about it. I think Fast Turtle's implicit question is: "why?"
nchs09
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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Ummmm... Rwanda? The Congo? Darfur? Sierra Leone? Uganda?

Videos are on CNN all the time... but because we can't blame them on some "enemy religion" we don't care/notice/do anything about it. I think Fast Turtle's implicit question is: "why?"
who is this WE or PEOPLE u guys keep talking about? cause i know I care.. and preatty much everyone i know who keeps up with current events does as well.
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