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| DreamSiege |
| Are you the type to just live with a toy like Synth1 or are you the kinda guy who wants to make the most synthetic experimental sounds possible with something akin to Kyma? |
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| echosystm |
Well, by experimental I'm going to assume you mean it's so ahead of the times that it's actually . So I guess I'm just a "toy" player. :)
It's ok. I'm sure, somewhere out there, someone on copious ammounts of heroin appreciates your . |
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| ralpheeee |
LOL, hey, don't be nasty, you could be talking to BT and don't even know it.
Strange question, why do you ask, and do you actualy own Kyma? |
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| kitphillips |
If I had a lot of time, I would get into that, I really like the idea, but the fact is that music is more important to me atm than sound, so I'm more interested in writing great songs than getting brilliant experimental sounds out of stuff, as much as I may appreciate that sort of thing.
Not all experimental stuff is either, I really like some stuff (well I consider it experimental, but its probably not really) thats being done by people like jeff beck or imogen heap lately with many, many tracks and heaps of multitracking and amazing effects and what have you. Thats my idea of what experimental music should be...
The most inspiring story I ever heard along these lines was from BT who said that he got his song running through some speakers in his studio, then walked slowly outside into the rain recoring all this on his minidisc player. He went back inside and edited each raindrop to a 256th level, he then FFT convolved the two signals together and got an amazing sort of texture. Micro editing FTW. :wtf: |
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| DreamSiege |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
If I had a lot of time, I would get into that, I really like the idea, but the fact is that music is more important to me atm than sound, so I'm more interested in writing great songs than getting brilliant experimental sounds out of stuff, as much as I may appreciate that sort of thing.
Not all experimental stuff is either, I really like some stuff (well I consider it experimental, but its probably not really) thats being done by people like jeff beck or imogen heap lately with many, many tracks and heaps of multitracking and amazing effects and what have you. Thats my idea of what experimental music should be...
The most inspiring story I ever heard along these lines was from BT who said that he got his song running through some speakers in his studio, then walked slowly outside into the rain recoring all this on his minidisc player. He went back inside and edited each raindrop to a 256th level, he then FFT convolved the two signals together and got an amazing sort of texture. Micro editing FTW. :wtf: |
Thats what im talkin about! I find at times it's great to go crazy with filters and routings to get strange new tones. Sometimes they work out to actually be mixable in a conventional song. I don't own kyma, wish i did, but something like that would be my dream. From what ive seen of it it's like reaktor on steroids. |
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| B_man |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_palm
i like experimental versions of conventional synthesis. |
+1...
Not a better quote on the subject yet... |
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| Project-K |
| With all the freedom a synth gives you, what's the point of wasting it by confining it's use to a pre-determined frame, exactly like an accoustic instrument would. Isn't experimentation the whole point of electronic music? |
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| B_man |
True... but like all chemistry labs, there are rules, and formulas that you adhere to and bend slightly in order to arrive at new products. You want acid, you better have some parts of hydrogen in the mix... or else it just plain isn't acid... EDM, you've got acid, but there are so many different kinds of acid (as long as the resonance and distortion are akin to the H in Chemistry).
You want to blow up your test tubes, go psy... But I got news, even psy trance artists need a little H to compose acid in some form. Some add more CL (distortion), and still others more square (SO4) than usual. |
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| mysticalninja |
| synth 1 isn't a toy -_- |
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| thoughtlessjex |
| quote: | Originally posted by mysticalninja
synth 1 isn't a toy -_- |
+1
Furthermore, Kyma and Synth1 are apples and oranges. Whereas Kyma is a full production environment, Synth1 is just what it says it is: a synth.
Even then, you can make some ed up with just a few softsynths, dblueGlitch, a proper DAW, and a decent wave editor. Kyma just makes the job a bit easier. In that way, you could probably call Kyma the toy. The very expensive and high tech toy. |
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