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quick recreational property question.. Only people with RE knowledge please
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| Vivid Boy |
If i wanted to find out who owned a parcel of land. However, the land is not listed for sale or has been in a long time. How can i go about doing this? Land registry system? Land Titles system?
How do i go about getting this info? and will it display how much they originally paid for it etc? |
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| chinamon |
| check the phone book. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by chinamon
check the phone book. |
by recreational property im talking 6 hours up north where the local phone book consists of a saskwatch and a deer. and the telephone line is a tin can with a string in it. hence why the title of the thread said recreational property |
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| magikb |
Do you know who it was listed through previously? You may be able to call up that agent to find out info.
Or maybe even try finding out the city/town phone number and contact the tax office. I know I used to be able to call the city to find out title of land, but now with the privacy laws it makes it that much harder to get the info. They won't be able to give you too many details though on purchase price or anything like that. It still may be worth a shot.
Hopefully that helps you a little. Others on the board may have some better leads for you. I only know of those options. |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vivid Boy
by recreational property im talking 6 hours up north where the local phone book consists of a saskwatch and a deer. and the telephone line is a tin can with a string in it. hence why the title of the thread said recreational property |
check the phone book |
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| MarkT |
I used to work for a real esate law firm in Toronto performing title searches at various Land Registry Offices in the GTA and surrounding regions.
Property ownership is essentially public information. You do need either a civic address or, even better, a legal description (e.g. Lot and Plan)for the property in question.
The search will also point to the deed on title that will list the consideration (price) at the time the owner acquired the property. The search will also list any mortgages/Charges, bylaws, right-of-ways, etc. that affect the property, though you may have to search each surrounding parcel of land to be sure (it can get *really* messy if it's a remote area).
If you don't have an address or legal description, you'll likely need the assistance of someone familiar with the area (lawyer, realtor, title searcher/conveyancer) or at least find out which Land Registry Office is responsible for that particular region (Toronto, Durham, Halton, Barrie, etc).
Each LRO has staff who could *probably* help locate the land in question in the system. The problem with remote areas is that you have no idea without looking at a map in the LRO how that tract of land has been divided. Is it a single parcel of land, multiple parcels, part of a parcel/parcels, etc.
doing it on your own would be a bit of a task...
If you're very serious, you're best best is to find out which LRO is responsible for that region and call them. They can at least direct you to a lawyer or freelance conveyancer who could perform the search.
Depending on the complexity of the search, it could cost $50...or a whole lot more.
If you have any specific info on exactly where it's located, I might be able to help you figure out which LRO would have the info or you can call them:
http://www.gov.on.ca/MGS/en/FAQ/STEL02_047246.html |
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| chinamon |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
I used to work for a real esate law firm in Toronto performing title searches at various Land Registry Offices in the GTA and surrounding regions.
Property ownership is essentially public information. You do need either a civic address or, even better, a legal description (e.g. Lot and Plan)for the property in question.
The search will also point to the deed on title that will list the consideration (price) at the time the owner acquired the property. The search will also list any mortgages/Charges, bylaws, right-of-ways, etc. that affect the property, though you may have to search each surrounding parcel of land to be sure (it can get *really* messy if it's a remote area).
If you don't have an address or legal description, you'll likely need the assistance of someone familiar with the area (lawyer, realtor, title searcher/conveyancer) or at least find out which Land Registry Office is responsible for that particular region (Toronto, Durham, Halton, Barrie, etc).
Each LRO has staff who could *probably* help locate the land in question in the system. The problem with remote areas is that you have no idea without looking at a map in the LRO how that tract of land has been divided. Is it a single parcel of land, multiple parcels, part of a parcel/parcels, etc.
doing it on your own would be a bit of a task...
If you're very serious, you're best best is to find out which LRO is responsible for that region and call them. They can at least direct you to a lawyer or freelance conveyancer who could perform the search.
Depending on the complexity of the search, it could cost $50...or a whole lot more.
If you have any specific info on exactly where it's located, I might be able to help you figure out which LRO would have the info or you can call them:
http://www.gov.on.ca/MGS/en/FAQ/STEL02_047246.html |
should've just told him to look in a phone book. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
I used to work for a real esate law firm in Toronto performing title searches at various Land Registry Offices in the GTA and surrounding regions.
Property ownership is essentially public information. You do need either a civic address or, even better, a legal description (e.g. Lot and Plan)for the property in question.
The search will also point to the deed on title that will list the consideration (price) at the time the owner acquired the property. The search will also list any mortgages/Charges, bylaws, right-of-ways, etc. that affect the property, though you may have to search each surrounding parcel of land to be sure (it can get *really* messy if it's a remote area).
If you don't have an address or legal description, you'll likely need the assistance of someone familiar with the area (lawyer, realtor, title searcher/conveyancer) or at least find out which Land Registry Office is responsible for that particular region (Toronto, Durham, Halton, Barrie, etc).
Each LRO has staff who could *probably* help locate the land in question in the system. The problem with remote areas is that you have no idea without looking at a map in the LRO how that tract of land has been divided. Is it a single parcel of land, multiple parcels, part of a parcel/parcels, etc.
doing it on your own would be a bit of a task...
If you're very serious, you're best best is to find out which LRO is responsible for that region and call them. They can at least direct you to a lawyer or freelance conveyancer who could perform the search.
Depending on the complexity of the search, it could cost $50...or a whole lot more.
If you have any specific info on exactly where it's located, I might be able to help you figure out which LRO would have the info or you can call them:
http://www.gov.on.ca/MGS/en/FAQ/STEL02_047246.html |
that was the answer i wa slooking for. u in rock! |
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| MarkT |
if it turns into a lucrative development deal, hook a brotha up :P
btw...many areas are now on the e-reg system (electronic registration) and often searches can be done remotely by anyone with Teranet access...rather than travelling to the LRO. If it's a remote area though, it may not be e-reg yet.
it's been about 5-6 years since I've done a search though, lol...so I dunno all the ins and outs anymore. |
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| Vivid Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
if it turns into a lucrative development deal, hook a brotha up :P
btw...many areas are now on the e-reg system (electronic registration) and often searches can be done remotely by anyone with Teranet access...rather than travelling to the LRO. If it's a remote area though, it may not be e-reg yet.
it's been about 5-6 years since I've done a search though, lol...so I dunno all the ins and outs anymore. |
ok well i may be working for royal lepage on thrusday. Im sure they have RE lawyers thatll help me out in exchange for a run n tug at the blue lagoon on the house by me |
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