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| emc^2 |
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Rushdie knighthood may spark terrorism: Pakistan
(AFP)
18 June 2007
ISLAMABAD - Pakistan demanded on Monday that Britain withdraw a knighthood awarded to author Salman Rushdie, as a government minister said the honour gave a justification for suicide attacks by Muslims.
Angry protesters in several cities torched British flags and beat them with their shoes in protest at the accolade for the Indian-born writer of �The Satanic Verses� and chanted �Death to Britain, death to Rushdie.�
Rushdie, 59, was forced to go into hiding for a decade after Iran�s Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini in 1989 issued a death sentence over his book �The Satanic Verses,� claiming it insulted Islam.
Iran has already accused British leaders of �Islamophobia� after Rushdie -- now Sir Salman -- was awarded the knighthood by Queen Elizabeth II on Saturday to mark her 81st birthday.
�If somebody has to attack by strapping bombs to his body to protect the honour of the Prophet, then it is justified,� Pakistani Religious Affairs Minister Ijaz-ul-Haq told the national assembly.
The minister, the son of military dictator Zia-ul-Haq who died in a plane crash in 1988, later retracted his statement in parliament and said he meant to say that knighting Rushdie could spark terrorism.
�I was explaining that if the British government awards a knighthood to Salman Rushdie -- whose only credibility is that he wrote a blasphemous book -- then such action with encourage extremism,� he told AFP.
�If someone blows himself up he will consider himself justified. How can we fight terrorism when those who commit blasphemy are rewarded by the West?� he said.
He said Pakistan should sever diplomatic ties with Britain if it did not withdraw the award, adding: �We demand an apology by the British government. Their action has hurt the sentiments of 1.5 billion Muslims.
The national assembly earlier unanimously passed a resolution condemning the knighthood given to Rushdie.
�We demand that Britain should refrain from such acts which hurt the sentiments of Muslims and take back the title of Sir given to Rushdie,� parliamentary affairs minister Sher Afgan said.
The resolution added that the award would encourage �contempt� for the Prophet Mohammed.
Pakistani Foreign Office spokesman Tasnim Aslam warned that the British honour would harm efforts to promote understanding between Muslim nations and the West.
�We deplore the decision of the British government to knight him. This, we feel, is insensitive and we would convey our sentiments to the British government,� she added.
Dozens of students from hardline Islamic schools in the central Pakistani city of Multan chanted �Death to Rushdie, death to Britain� and set a British flag on fire, witnesses said.
They carried a banner saying �Our protest will continue until Britain withdraws the title.�
About the same number of protesters in the eastern cultural hub of Lahore used their shoes to pound burning British flags in a show of disrespect while in Karachi around 200 people rallied outside the mayor�s office.
Islamist leaders called for nationwide protests after Friday prayers.
Five people died in the Pakistani capital Islamabad in 1989 in riots against Rushdie�s book. Pakistan is an Islamic republic, like neighbouring Iran, and its 160 million population is overwhelmingly Muslim.
The British High Commission (embassy) in Islamabad defended the decision to bestow the knighthood on Rushdie.
�Sir Salman�s honour is richly deserved and the reasons for it are self-explanatory,� said spokesman Aidan Liddle.
�This knighthood is a reflection of Salman Rushdie�s contribution to literature through a long and diverse career.�
Rushdie�s second novel, �Midnight�s Children,� won the prestigious Booker Prize in 1981 and was named the best novel in 25 years of the prize in 1993. Rushdie is also a fellow of Britain�s Royal Society of Literature.
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just wondering when will "West" finally have the ballz to take the damn gloves off, extend the middle finger to Islamist Extremists and tell them to go pound sand?
IMHO, a day when Islam is finally and officially declared a religion of extremism and should be dealt with accordingly, could not be a day too soon. :rolleyes: |
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| Omega_M |
| IMO the India-Pakistan rivalry is partly to be blamed for this. Look who's irked. The pakistani MPs. Nobody else is saying anything..atleast, it's not big news yet. But now all the islamic states will join in the condemnation. They get one more reason to bitch about the West. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by emc^2
just wondering when will "West" finally have the ballz to take the damn gloves off, extend the middle finger to Islamist Extremists and tell them to go pound sand? |
Ah the wise words of emc^2! Always good for a laugh!
Pray tell what exatly would you like the UK to do to "extend the middle finger to Islamist Extremists" that we are not already doing?!
| quote: | | IMHO, a day when Islam is finally and officially declared a religion of extremism and should be dealt with accordingly, could not be a day too soon. :rolleyes: |
Half the people on my street and area are Muslims, there is a big Mosque round the corner and a large Muslim community surrounding it. Are they all extremists? How should we "deal" with these law-abiding British citizens?? |
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| HardTranceProd |
| quote: | Originally posted by emc^2
IMHO, a day when Islam is finally and officially declared a religion of extremism and should be dealt with accordingly, could not be a day too soon. :rolleyes: |
Are you stupid or something? Every religion has its extremists and moderates.
People living in Central Asia and Siberia are moderate Muslims. And some Americans living in the US are Christian extremists that want to kill abortion doctors.
I am totally with you that we should declare ALL religions to be stupid and false. Not just Islam but Christianity can be very dangerous and Judaism can also be dangerous, as you saw after the murder of Itzhak Rabin. |
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| Omega_M |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
Every religion has its extremists and moderates. |
That's a piss poor argument you make to defend Islamic militancy. You fail to take into account the scale of violence committed by Islamic extremists as against that committed by other religious extremists. Christian fundamentalists are out to kill abortion doctors. Yeah right...now tell me who all the Islamic extremists are out to kill ? At what level they are ready to take their violence ? how much human blood they are willing to shed for their cause ? :rolleyes: |
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| emc^2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Half the people on my street and area are Muslims, there is a big Mosque round the corner and a large Muslim community surrounding it. Are they all extremists? How should we "deal" with these law-abiding British citizens?? |
the people who caused london subway/bus bombings were also, on the surface, law-obiding people. they had no previous "record" nor any unusual "flags" that would set the alarms of.
I dare you to name the last incident involving Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Dharmic, or even atheist suicide bomber. Please tell me the last time you saw a NON-MUSLIM person cutting someone's head off and posting it on the Internet for everyone to view.
I'm literally on the edge of my seat, waiting for you to tell me when was the last time a woman was stoned by family and neighbors, in a western nation, in a broad daylight in the street for being raped. I would love for you to demonstrate when Danish publishers demanded muslim killings for disagreeing with their veiws of prophet mohammed.
You're full of sh!t and your head is stuck so deep up your arse, I think the only way to dislodge it is to have you ride a subway with a suicide bomber next to you. Just the two of you, just swaying along with the cart... when BOOOOM! well, you get my point. |
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| emc^2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
Are you stupid or something? Every religion has its extremists and moderates.
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yet none are as prominent as Islamic radicals. Check your facts jack, quit being so naive and soft-hearted. |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
Are you stupid or something? Every religion has its extremists and moderates.
People living in Central Asia and Siberia are moderate Muslims. |
LOL. Islam is not an indigenous religion in siberia like it is in C.A or did you believe they were muslims because they are china looking men like in C.A? Learn your geography. The majority of people in siberia are christian or practice some indigenous sh!t that isn't muslim called Shamanism. |
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| metalgearsolid |
| quote: | Originally posted by emc^2
yet none are as prominent as Islamic radicals. Check your facts jack, quit being so naive and soft-hearted. |
What is your ethnicity, man? Anyways yeah islam radicals are the new nazis's. It's very very scary. |
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| emc^2 |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Half the people on my street and area are Muslims, there is a big Mosque round the corner and a large Muslim community surrounding it. Are they all extremists? How should we "deal" with these law-abiding British citizens?? |
P.s. I'd be willing to bet a decent chunk of money that there's at least a few in the very same community that are currently either thinking or planning or at the very least sympathetic to jihad cause. It's not a question of "if". It's a question of "when". I hope I'm wrong, though. The very nature of religion permits this. It promotes killing, blodshed, and simple disregard for human life.
You can't convince me that "moderates" is what I should be paying attention to. I'm sure you'd agree we're not at war with "moderates"... I also hope you're not as daft as you would have us believe. Actually... who am I kidding. Of course you are. :rolleyes: |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_M
That's a piss poor argument you make to defend Islamic militancy. |
Who the is defending Islamic militancy?!
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by emc^2
the people who caused london subway/bus bombings were also, on the surface, law-obiding people. they had no previous "record" nor any unusual "flags" that would set the alarms of. |
No Sherlock. Now explain why we should view all Muslims as extremists?
| quote: | | I dare you to name the last incident involving Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Dharmic, or even atheist suicide bomber. Please tell me the last time you saw a NON-MUSLIM person cutting someone's head off and posting it on the Internet for everyone to view. |
What difference do the methods used to kill make? Manchester city centre was devestated by Nationalist terrorists from Northern Ireland and many people died, what difference does it make whether they put the bomb in a bin or under their shirt?
| quote: | | I'm literally on the edge of my seat, waiting for you to tell me when was the last time a woman was stoned by family and neighbors, in a western nation, in a broad daylight in the street for being raped. I would love for you to demonstrate when Danish publishers demanded muslim killings for disagreeing with their veiws of prophet mohammed. |
Can you explain to me why you are so keen to convince everyone that all Muslims are extremists? This seems to be a bit of reoccurring theme with your posts - care to explain?
| quote: | | You're full of sh!t and your head is stuck so deep up your arse, I think the only way to dislodge it is to have you ride a subway with a suicide bomber next to you. Just the two of you, just swaying along with the cart... when BOOOOM! well, you get my point. |
Your problem is that you are 10 years old and have sneaked onto your mum's computer when she wasn't looking. And if you're not 10 years ols I suggest you start acting like it because as you may have noticed, not a lot of people take you very seriously.
Now, for the last time, if you want to debate Islamic extremists then fine, but as soon as you attempt to portray every Muslim on Earth as being an extremists then you have no argument, there will be no debate, and instead, you will be viewed as the bigot that you are. |
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