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Can the Pioneer CDj 1000 make beat matching easier? (pg. 6)
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| Andrømeda |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ryan0751
There's no latency waiting for a TT motor to catch up to the pitch changes? It's WAY higher than changing the pitch setting in a DSP... by orders of magnitude.
Is that your mom calling? |
yes there is but the latency is less than the cdj
hell, with the cdj1000 you have double latency (including digital wise) just cliking play and for the source to reach your head phones is def triple the length of a analogue tech 12 |
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| Ryan0751 |
Haha, yeah it really bothers me. I always have to wait to hear the sound.
| quote: | Originally posted by Andrømeda
yes there is but the latency is less than the cdj
hell, with the cdj1000 you have double latency (including digital wise) just cliking play and for the source to reach your head phones is def triple the length of a analogue tech 12 |
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| Andrømeda |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ryan0751
Haha, yeah it really bothers me. I always have to wait to hear the sound. |
really? i thought i was the only one who noticed :haha: |
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| Ryan0751 |
I can hear to the micro second. Pretty remarkable really.
| quote: | Originally posted by Andrømeda
really? i thought i was the only one who noticed :haha: |
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| spdandpwr |
| can i just say that making adjustments to pitch (minor pitch bending adjustments) is way easier on a turntable and the pitch fader on all cd decks is way too loose...wtf why is it like that...the technics pitch slider is perfect!!! |
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| Zild |
| Yes but it is easier to pitch bend with the jog wheel than to learn how to ride the pitch on turntables. It took me years to refine my pitch riding skills, but it only took me five minutes to learn how to use the jog wheel. |
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| DJMaytag |
| quote: | Originally posted by Andr�meda
excellent ownage by maytag
here's a link to the M5G
the pitch movement is actually computerized |
I can't find nor have I heard of the pitch fader itself being computerized, but it would not surprise me if the switch for the two ranges (+/- 8 and +/- 16) on the M5G was somehow computerized. I'd be will to bet a large chunk of $$$ that the faders aren't computerized (M5 and M5G) but the range switch on the M5G is. I get less than 8 results on google when searching about it, and zero mention of it on the Panasonic/Technics site. |
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| DJMaytag |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Yes but it is easier to pitch bend with the jog wheel than to learn how to ride the pitch on turntables. It took me years to refine my pitch riding skills, but it only took me five minutes to learn how to use the jog wheel. |
While on the subject of making your beat matching better, here's one of the two biggest tips I got that made HUGE improvements in my beat matching skills:
DON'T TOUCH THE PLATTER, SPINDLE, OR RECORD!!!
Using ALL pitch fader and making minute adjustments made beatmatching sooooo much quicker and tighter it's not even funny. I can pretty much do the same thing with CD decks now (primarily use Denon S3500's) until I get within .1%, where I do use the pitch bend to make the same type of adjustments I would riding the pitch fader. |
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| discobiscuit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
Yes but it is easier to pitch bend with the jog wheel than to learn how to ride the pitch on turntables. It took me years to refine my pitch riding skills, but it only took me five minutes to learn how to use the jog wheel. |
+1 |
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| Zild |
| I remember when I first used CDJs I kept trying to ride the pitch with disastrous results. |
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| Jarvmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJMaytag
.....I get less than 8 results on google when searching about it, and zero mention of it on the Panasonic/Technics site. |
thats because you're probably searching for the wrong key words. Use digital rather than 'computerized'!!
Computerized........... hahahaha!
Jarv |
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| DJMaytag |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
thats because you're probably searching for the wrong key words. Use digital rather than 'computerized'!!
Computerized........... hahahaha! |
Well that's 1983 type terminology, and it's likely the same type of technology used in modernizing analogue synthesizers around that time. Early synths used VCO's (voltage controlled oscillators) for sound sources, but in the early 80's many manufacturers started using DCO's (digitally controlled oscillators). The same oscillator design was used, but the DCO was nothing more than a VCO with digital control to maintain the pitch stability (DCVCO is probably the proper terminology).
I'm guessing this is the same thing that's being done here, adding a digital control so that the pitch fader on every M5G is exactly the same, and that when you put it at +6, the strobe lights indicating +6 will not move. Does anyone here have M5G's the see if this is the case??? I'm curious to know that and/or if the adjustment controls inside the MK2's and M3D's are also in the M5G's.
This is NOT a feature on M5's, just M5G's, and I haven't played on M5G's in almost a year... |
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