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| DJ-KCeZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU
Also, a couple people said they blew them out after about a year.
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Man they had blew it down because they are stupid this monitors have a limit light when it turn red then it mean the high volume affecting one of the high mid or low channel so plz turn the volume down but people always try to get more than what the speakers can give even if it's million watts by the way even for those who said they had blew it when the red light turn on after 30 seconds or more the amplifier turn of on the speaker not to harm it soo i think they are always getting out of the speakers limit :(
speaker advantages:
1- it have a limitation light turn on when ur getting out of the limit.
2- it have a volume trim from -6db to 6 db when u set it to 0 db for example as i set it u will not harm the speakers and when u set the master volume to 0 db the speakers will indicate that this is the maximum if u turn the master volume more up the red light will begin to work
ADVICE : always read the manual of the speakers IF U WANT THEM TO LIVE LONGER LIFE
ANOTHER ADVICE : Make sure that ur speakers is the last thing to be turned on and the first thing to be turned off this will make it live for long time and 2031 have automatic off switch :) |
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| DJ-KCeZ |
| well about the amplifier it have many ways to be set but 1 to 1 is best way (1 watt from speaker to 1 watt from the amplifier) regarding to other ways if u set the amplifier to more than the speakers can tolerant u can blew it and if u set the amplifier to be half of the watts i have doubt if the speakers will work at all :) |
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| Storyteller |
| quote: | | amps just need to have the ohm rating matched with the speaker ohm rating...but not power...you can drive speakers with one watt and not blow the amp as long as you have ohm levels in check... |
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| quote: | Originally posted by spdandpwr
wow...who have you guys been talking about for speakers and amps combos....a rating of 1000watts max on a speaker should not be exceeded...in fact, a good rule of thumb is to get an amplifier that provides half the rms rating for power. So 250RMS watt amp for 500watt rms speaker... |
In the end it doesn't really matter. It's mostly a matter of personal preference. I prefer to have a stronger amp than speakers. Why, see the text below.
If you prefer crystal clear and maximum performance it's a must to have at least a stronger amp (in Watts) than your speakers can handle. Why? Because an amp distorts the audio signal when it's put up to it's max. If your amp can provide more watts than your speakers can handle it's easy to blow your speakers. So watch the volume. However the audio signal will be of awesome quality at whichever volume you prefer to listen (below the speaker max of course).
If your amp has less power than your speakers can handle something else happens. If you put the amp up to it's max volume the audio signal will distort, the music will be less genuine compared to the original input signal. Normally this at least would not blow up your speakers. BUT amps can behave strangely when pushed to/beyond their limits. In this case an amp could produce huge peaks (especially if it's a cheap design) which could eventually blow your amp & speakers as well.. |
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| Allen Mueller |
| quote: | Originally posted by spdandpwr
wow...who have you guys been talking about for speakers and amps combos....a rating of 1000watts max on a speaker should not be exceeded...in fact, a good rule of thumb is to get an amplifier that provides half the rms rating for power. So 250RMS watt amp for 500watt rms speaker... |
Actually its just the opposite. The RMS rating of your amp should be 1.5 - 2 times the rms rating of your speaker. You can get away with less, and i do in my own personal setup. I don't need to play my speakers to the max so I am comfortable using smaller amps. If i was playing out and building a PA, i would go with larger amps. It is alot easier to burn up a voice coil with less power that is distoted and compressed, than it is with good clean power.
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| Zild |
| Ideally your amp should be stronger than what your speakers are rated at. |
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| Sukhoi29SU |
Again, I appreciate all of the responses!
Embarrassingly enough, I did a little trouble shooting with my speakers, and I don't think that they were ever blown, but I had a setting wrong on my receiver- I must have accidentally hit a button or something. After mixing with them today I think they sounded a lot better than they did when I originally thought that I may have busted them.
Regardless, I ordered those Behringer speakers and look forward to hearing them. I'm going to wait awhile to purchase anything more at the moment, but will eventually want to upgrade to a larger more powerful system.
Thanks again
Edit: ** The speakers aren't the problem- it's my echo indigo dj soundcard that is the problem. The reason the speakers sound fine when I'm mixing is that the sound isn't routed through that soundcard. I hope I can get a refund on that soundcard... that thing wasn't cheap. |
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| jamie lee |
| I have a pair of Tascam VL-X5's and i love them. They do need to be coupled with a sub but 2x 5in studio monitors + studio sub really sounds sweet in a bedroom set up. |
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| Sukhoi29SU |
Another amateur question for you guys:
I just received the Behringer Truth 2031A's in the mail today and was hoping to hook them but don't have the required TRS or XLR cables.
1st question is should I go with the TRS or XLR style cable, and where would you recommend purchasing these from? I know I should go with 'balanced' cables, correct? I went to a local Best Buy store and apparently they aren't available there.
Secondly, can I hook these speakers up through my Yamaha receiver, which is powering a couple smaller speakers and a subwoofer? Otherwise, how do I hook these up? I've got the "Master Out" outputs on my DJM600 connected to my Yamaha Receiver.
Thanks again |
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| DJ-KCeZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sukhoi29SU
Another amateur question for you guys:
I just received the Behringer Truth 2031A's in the mail today and was hoping to hook them but don't have the required TRS or XLR cables.
1st question is should I go with the TRS or XLR style cable, and where would you recommend purchasing these from? I know I should go with 'balanced' cables, correct? I went to a local Best Buy store and apparently they aren't available there.
Secondly, can I hook these speakers up through my Yamaha receiver, which is powering a couple smaller speakers and a subwoofer? Otherwise, how do I hook these up? I've got the "Master Out" outputs on my DJM600 connected to my Yamaha Receiver.
Thanks again |
well u need the right cable to hook it up in the mixer soo if the mixer offer to u RCA connection only (most mixers offer for the master/main) and not offer the XLR connection then u need to get "TRS 1/4 << on the speaker to RCA>> on the mixer" cable, otherwise if ur mixer offer XLR then u can get (XLR to XLR) cable.
**chaep mixers don't offer the XLR connection like behringer,most numark mixers,etc....
*** i don't know what is ur yamaha reciever do but if what im think u can get a mutli connection u can connect it to ur mixer which can let u set ur behringer speakers on way and ur yamaha speakers on the other way to make 2 way refrence it's a way, another way i dunno if this reciver can hook the behringer speakers, i mean if it have a connections for that u can see it's back panal if it can provide u more connection...
u have DJM-600 then u have both ways TCR or XLR u can choose as u like... |
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| sr126 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Allen Mueller
Actually its just the opposite. The RMS rating of your amp should be 1.5 - 2 times the rms rating of your speaker. You can get away with less, and i do in my own personal setup. I don't need to play my speakers to the max so I am comfortable using smaller amps. If i was playing out and building a PA, i would go with larger amps. It is alot easier to burn up a voice coil with less power that is distoted and compressed, than it is with good clean power.
allen |
yeah, i also grew up w/the philosphy that the amp rating should be double of what the speaker is rated for the best possible sound quality, and to prevent the premature death of drivers because of distortion caused by amps.
like allen said, you don't have to strictly adhere to this rule in a home set up. atleast here in my apt, where the walls are paper thin... my nieghbors definately wouldn't appreciate me matching a 1000watt amp w/some 500watt speakers.
my denon avr-1000 is perfect... actually, i need to get different speakers, because it's actually too much. |
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| Sukhoi29SU |
http://www1.shopping.com/xPF-Yamaha-HTR-5560
This is the receiver I have. My DJM600 is hooked up to the CD input on the Yamaha receiver via RCA cables from the "Master Out 1" output on the DJM600. I see a "booth monitor" output on the back of the DJM600. Does one cable branch off from there and go to both monitors?
I'm an idiot, sorry.
I'm really hoping that I can continue to power a few speakers (including subwoofer) with the Yamaha receiver while also finding a way to get the Behringers hooked up. |
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| Sukhoi29SU |
| quote: | Originally posted by sr126
atleast here in my apt, where the walls are paper thin... my nieghbors definately wouldn't appreciate me matching a 1000watt amp w/some 500watt speakers.
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Ha. I'm also living in an apartment with thin walls. The neighbor below me would frequently send up her kids to tell me to turn the bass down. I tried to only play the music loud when they were gone. Fortunately they recently moved out so I am looking forward to putting these new monitors to good use :)
Noticed your Argentina flag...
De donde eres? Mi novia pasada vive en bs.as. |
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