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DJ RANN
I don't want to start the (endless) AMD vs. Intel debate but I'm going to be buying a laptop and all my research so far is leaning towards a core2duo laptop. The Turions are cheaper but performance does not seem up to level of the c2d's. I'm always wary of marketing bull (which intel are very good at) so would like to hear from those who own/know....

Basically, I am considering second hand or refurbished cancelled orders (ebay etc.)and I don't care about aesthetics or battery life or size.
It's got to have a 15" screen (res above xga).
A desktop replacement would be fine but it seems they are actually more expensive.

Anyone got any info that could be useful? Which processor to go for? Good stores to buy in the UK? Amd vs. Intel?????
echosystm
AFAIK, Intel are leading the race in both Laptops and Desktops at the moment (considering price). Intel, generally, have always been better with laptops. AMD are more of a desktop oriented company.

I'm no fanboy though just so you know... I have owned Pentium M, Core2Duo, Athlon, Duron, K6, Celeron and Pentium 4 computers lol.
DJ RANN
Thanks Echo, that's what I'm realising. It seems the Core2Duo's have the edge in terms of performance and the price is dropping by the day due to the quad core's.

But , that a lot of PC's that you've owned!

I was looking at Pentium 4 HT laptops cos they are going very cheap (about £200) second hand, but don't know if they are just so far behind the core2duo's in terms of performance that I shouldn't bother.

Is there a huge difference?
DJ RANN
Thanks Echo, that's what I'm realising. It seems the Core2Duo's have the edge in terms of performance and the price is dropping by the day due to the quad core's.

But , that a lot of PC's that you've owned!

I was looking at Pentium 4 HT laptops cos they are going very cheap (about £200 for a 3.4ghz P4HT) second hand, but don't know if they are just so far behind the core2duo's (even a 1.6ghz) in terms of performance that I shouldn't bother.

Is there a huge difference? Enough to justify the extra £200?
DJFreaq
Running a Core2Duo on my macbook right now. Runs just fine in both OSX and WindowsXP.
Zombie0729
well.. i'm running 2 x 2200 AMD's on my desktop and 2 x 1800 Intels on my laptop....

both on XP, ableton live 6.07 same sound card when i play out.

Pro's i've noticed:

- desktop can handle more but has spikes(it's odd, will run into 600% usage to 20%)... no glitches but every now and then a stall
- laptop actually runs smoother when i play live then when i'm at home in the studio(makes sense though, less plugs etc)

Cons

- Laptop's scare me.
- Processor runs programs smoothly but glitchy when loading multiple things at a time, much more than the AMD
- Have tested it slightly with an external HD and it seems to work fine, no spikes and no latency issues... buying a new external so i'll test again
DJFreaq
Interesting that you've experienced odd CPU spikes.

I have a suggestion (if you haven't done this already).

Turn off all your wireless components in your laptop by disabling them in the device manager. This will ensure your computer isn't constantly hunting for a signal.

I was having odd hiccups when running various sessions in ProTools and Cubase, I disabled all the wireless hardware... and bam. Worked like a champ.

Give it a shot if you haven't already.
Zombie0729
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Originally posted by DJFreaq
Interesting that you've experienced odd CPU spikes.

I have a suggestion (if you haven't done this already).

Turn off all your wireless components in your laptop by disabling them in the device manager. This will ensure your computer isn't constantly hunting for a signal.

I was having odd hiccups when running various sessions in ProTools and Cubase, I disabled all the wireless hardware... and bam. Worked like a champ.

Give it a shot if you haven't already.


cheers for this, when i play live i turn off the wireless networks in the control panel but will the device manager turn it off "more" ?
DJFreaq
Possibly. Essentialy, when you say go to network connections and "turn of wireless" it is disabling it in the device manager.

I just like to do it manually myself, and go into the device manager, and turn off ANY wireless hardware.
DigiNut
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Originally posted by echosystm
I have owned Pentium M, Core2Duo, Athlon, Duron, K6, Celeron and Pentium 4 computers lol.

NERD!

RANN: I think the E6600 is still the best value for the money. Lower models have smaller L2 cache, which has a bigger impact than the mundane clock speed differences in the higher models.

Of course performance will never be quite as good on a laptop. The pathetic hard drives alone can often kill performance. But if you absolutely must get one, definitely get one based on C2D.

echosystm
quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
I was looking at Pentium 4 HT laptops


Ok this is the one thing Intel got wrong. The entire Pentium 4 laptop range was horrible - hot, stupid power consumption, just total crap in general. Seriously, Centrino/Pentium M is the minimum you should look for if you actually want to use it as a laptop. Pentium 4 based laptops are more of a mobile desktop, because you won't even be able to open Word without running out of battery haha...

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
NERD!


Apple Mac II, Pentium MMX, Pentium 2 and Pentium 3 complete the list haha :P
LENG
i don't really think that processors would make much significant difference. most likely the ones on the market now are able to provide more than you need. go ahead with a brand new laptop, with at least a 1gb ram and enough harddisk space for your samples and works (80gb should be sufficient). but if you were to install craps in your machine, ************ of how good your processor is, you will never get enough.
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