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MySpace Pwns Facebook. Long Live MySpace. (pg. 3)
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geroin
TA > myspace/facebook
EvilTree
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Originally posted by SuperJimbo
I have no idea what you are talking about. :p

Neither do I.

*clicks refresh*
DigiNut
I think the statistics are misleading. Myspace tends to be centered a lot around music, so people visiting a page will often spend 3 or 4 minutes listening to a track, compared to a quick glance at some brainless announcement on Facebook. In both cases, the user isn't really doing anything, but he's on myspace for a little longer because of this.

I still believe that myspace does get used more worldwide than Facebook, just not by a margin of 3. And yeah, Facebook definitely has Toronto by the nuts, it's sad. This city is a bunch of sheep.
Cosmic Fur
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Originally posted by DigiNut
And yeah, Facebook definitely has Toronto by the nuts, it's sad. This city is a bunch of sheep.


Because using myspace (the alternative) is being non-conformist?
7-4-7
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
This city is a bunch of sheep.


really? in what sense exactly?...because no country that I have ever been to has more farm animal characteristics than Singapore. Toronto has far too much concentrated cultural difference alone to make that statement logical.

I couldn't disagree with you more...take the QEW to America, its a land of un-Sheppard sheep.
DigiNut
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Because using myspace (the alternative) is being non-conformist?

Toronto was all over myspace too before Facebook took over. Of course one's not much better than the other, but all else being equal it's better if people wait at least a few milliseconds before drifting to a new meme.

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Originally posted by 7-4-7
Toronto has far too much concentrated cultural difference alone to make that statement logical.

If by cultural difference you mean ethnic difference, then sure, it's true that Toronto has it, but it's also totally irrelevant. Ethnic diversity is not ideological or intellectual diversity - two things which Toronto in particular has very little of.

Extend the scope across Canada and you'll see more real diversity, with the inclusion of the east and west coasts and certain parts of Quebec (i.e. outside Montreal). But we're talking specifically about Toronto here.
FunkyCrew
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Because using myspace (the alternative) is being non-conformist?


I think you misunderstood what he meant, which I believe was the fact that Torontonians are very trend-savvy - first it was Myspace, now it's FB, etc

Diginut, am I correct?
SuperJimbo
(Updated and bumped. See post below.)
Sylent Syd
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
I think the statistics are misleading... people visiting a page will often spend 3 or 4 minutes listening to a track...

...and another 3 or 4 minutes waiting for the track to load...lol
narcism
jer made me sign up to facebook yesterday, oh yea was cool i found my canadian cousins on there, but the site is fairly .
If one more person pokes me i will stab them in the eye :p

myspace > facebook
because i can around with myspace and actually make it personal

7-4-7
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Toronto was all over myspace too before Facebook took over. Of course one's not much better than the other, but all else being equal it's better if people wait at least a few milliseconds before drifting to a new meme.


If by cultural difference you mean ethnic difference, then sure, it's true that Toronto has it, but it's also totally irrelevant. Ethnic diversity is not ideological or intellectual diversity - two things which Toronto in particular has very little of.

Extend the scope across Canada and you'll see more real diversity, with the inclusion of the east and west coasts and certain parts of Quebec (i.e. outside Montreal). But we're talking specifically about Toronto here.


If by cultural difference I mean cultural difference. Thanks for the diversion, but I'll remain meaning what I meant. First Ethnicity and culture are two different concepts. Canada, and especially in our majour city centres, we have a mass amount of ethnicity, sure, What western country doesn't? Ethnicity plays a majour factor in cultural transmission, however it does not guarantee the cohesiveness of a society. Intellectually if you were savvy/worldly enough you could actually see that Canada's ideology of diversity/multiculturalism etc etc all actually play out in a manner that we all fall under the watchful eye of the dominant Canadian culture; while all still practicing the culture, possible of our ethnicity, but not necessarily.

Why exactly does Quebec seem like an especially attractive place to lay any more of a claim of ethnicity than Toronto, or Vancouver. Sure Quebec has a massive, powerful French population; but also a vibrant Arab, North African, Italian and Jewish community. The fact that it does, and that they all live in virtual harmony is a testament to the quality of our cohesiveness. Your claim of our herd mentality falls flat, legally our consititution doesn't support it, ideologically it remains false, realistically; wrong again and compared to the manner with which other western states rule their masses we have a decidedly more open society that allows for the differences of others and respects and promotes choice.
SuperJimbo
quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
...ideological or intellectual diversity - two things which Toronto in particular has very little of.


While not exactly New York or London, I'd have to disagree with you on this one. The ethnic diversity of Toronto (100 different ethnic communities; 44% of the population foreign-born), as well as the existing and growing "creative class", make me believe that ideological and intellectual diversity not only exists in our great city, but is thriving.


Here are a few links that provide more information about the creative class, a concept put forth by a well respected academic named Richard Florida (who now teaches at UofT)...

Richard Florida on Toronto: http://communities.canada.com/natio...on-toronto.aspx

Creative Class Website: http://creativeclass.com/

Creative Class Videos: http://creativeclass.com/richard_fl...CreativeEconomy

Fast Company Article: http://creativeclass.com/article_li...-and_the_fi.pdf
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