Originally posted by julien2
indeed. shall reply later to the n00bs
lol how the hell are you gonna find the time to do that? There is so many of them.
julien2
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Originally posted by limin_li
Electro is like a new wave of electronic dance music that just being redundant, seems like every producer right now is making electro house or trance. I don't like any of it except a few thats closely related to Funky House Music. Overall, I think uplifting trance is taking a break right now, it will pick up later in September unto 2008.
This is false.
1- Electro is not new. It is much older than trance Alongside Hip Hop, they were the first EDM genres to get a breakthrough. Electro was invented with the first drum machines in the 1970's by the likes of Kraftwerk and Afrikaa Bambata. It is a mix of electronic "artificial" sounds and breakbeat.
The 2000's has seen the explosion of the electro house, and more importantly, the very short lived electroclash movement with the likes of DJ Hell, Anthony Rother and Tiga. This "electro" sub-genre dropped the breakbeat and replaced it with a 4/4 percussion, thus keeping up with the fad in the EDM industry. It was good, very good, and it still is. However, the problem is that this new electro, which is not like the original electro, started stealing the term electro. So much, that real electro (breakbeat) got new names such as grime or electro-hip-hop.
***this is a normal process seen in other musical genres. For instance, in the 1970's, Led Zepelin were considered to be heavy metal. In the 1980's Metallica, much harder, were the heavy metal, whereas now, the heavy metal are the Scandinavian bands (very hardcore).***
2- Trance is dead. Everybody says it. And it is not because Tiesto still fills up arenas and stadiums that trance is alive. It is dead. But some intelligent producers (such as Ferry) saw it coming. They wanted to flee the sinking ship of trance. So they hoped on a bandwagon of cheap generic electro (remember, it is in fact not electro) to stay on the top. In the process, they contributed to the emergence of said cheap generic electro. Sad. very sad.
julien2
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Originally posted by sisyrc
There is no such thing as Electro Trance, and anyone who says there is an Electro Trance is an ignorant moron. Let me put it like this...
This was electro...
This is electro...
This is good trance...
This is bad trance...
This is electro trance...
Wow ! Everything I said my previous post you had already posted in 4 clips. And we even talk about the same producers :haha:
/clap
/bow
/end thread
AustralianGQ
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Originally posted by julien2
This is false.
2- Trance is dead. Everybody says it. And it is not because Tiesto still fills up arenas and stadiums that trance is alive. It is dead. But some intelligent producers (such as Ferry) saw it coming. They wanted to flee the sinking ship of trance. So they hoped on a bandwagon of cheap generic electro (remember, it is in fact not electro) to stay on the top. In the process, they contributed to the emergence of said cheap generic electro. Sad. very sad.
trance isnt dead, maybe u think it is.....
but millsions of trance fans dont think so. we got djs's old and new producing music, we got events like trance energy, singles being released all the time and albums and radio shows and what not...
trance isnt dead and it never will be, its just changing and ever progressing.....maybe u dont like that. but ur wrong to say its dead.
Cobalt
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Originally posted by AustralianGQ
trance isnt dead, maybe u think it is.....
but millsions of trance fans dont think so. we got djs's old and new producing music, we got events like trance energy, singles being released all the time and albums and radio shows and what not...
trance isnt dead and it never will be, its just changing and ever progressing.....maybe u dont like that. but ur wrong to say its dead.
But the point is that it isn't changing or progressing. It sounds exactly the same as it did five years ago, with all the good parts left out.
Events and producers don't matter if the style isn't doing anything remotely interesting or inspired.
SMC
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Originally posted by Cobalt
But the point is that it isn't changing or progressing. It sounds exactly the same as it did five years ago, with all the good parts left out.
Events and producers don't matter if the style isn't doing anything remotely interesting or inspired.
You're all looking in the wrong places. Both sides in the "trance is dead" debate are using the same things as evidence that trance is dead or not dead.
Just listen to Sound Field - Technological Terror (or the whole Sound Field album "Audio Surfin"), outstanding trance year 2007.
wotyzoid
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Originally posted by SMC
You're all looking in the wrong places. Both sides in the "trance is dead" debate are using the same things as evidence that trance is dead or not dead.
Just listen to Sound Field - Technological Terror (or the whole Sound Field album "Audio Surfin"), outstanding trance year 2007.
at leats someone that thinks like I do.
beats and beeps
People who produce "Electro Trance" are complete morons.
They first of all do not know a thing about the equipment that made electro, and they have no interest in it, because it is impractical. Go over to the ing producer forums, and its a bunch of yuppies trying to cut the costs to the maximum about production. Everything is why ______ when you can ______ its cheaper and faster! They don't love it, they don't see the point in using gear without midi, they don't see the point in using old broken synthesizers. They use loops, they use formulas, they use hard numbers when they eq its ing nuts.
They second of all do not know what sound electro is...its not just about the machines of course...you can make electro without THE machines, but you must have knowledge and understanding of THE MACHINES and how they made electro what it is.
david.sound
Electro trance is not very good trance at all. And not very good electro as well.
wotyzoid
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Originally posted by david.sound
Electro trance is not very good trance at all. And not very good electro as well.
