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Recommended live set-up? laptop? soundcard?
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| Adambomb337 |
What would you recommend for a reliable live set-up using a laptop? What kind of laptop is most reliable?
What kind of sound card is most reliable and decent in clarity? |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by Adambomb337
What kind of laptop is most reliable? |
Even though I am a PC user, I always say Macs.
If you have your heart set on a PC, Asus. Generally Toshiba are good, but those cheap $800 ones you can buy from Wal-Mart are NOT. Sony are well built (level with Asus), but you pay for the name and the software sucks. Stay away from Dell, MSI and LG. HP, Compaq, Lenovo/IBM are in the "middle", but seeing as Asus are generally cheapest of any of these, it makes sense to just go with them haha.
For soundcards, without spending tonnes, I recommend Echo Audiofires. They have great ADC/DAC for the price and the company is renowned for good drivers. Stay away from Roland/Edirol ones. Next step down from an Audiofire 4 is Presonus Firebox - the ADC/DAC is not as good, but the preamps are probably better. |
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| Ray_Chappell |
| quote: | Originally posted by kitphillips
So I uhm put some sidechain compression on my stutter edits and made myself sound like BT crossed with Markus Shulz, only more like tiesto... only more like DJ sammy... only not as good. [/url] |
That cracks me up every time I see it. ;)
To the question... I don't think you can go wrong with a Mac. Reliable? yes. Costly? yes. I think it is worth the investment.
If you go with a pc notebook, I think the specs are the most important factor. Like kitphillips said, a dual core processor of some kind and a couple gigs of ram minimum. I've actually used a Dell and a Vaio - had no problems with either, but in every case I wipe the hard-drive out entirely and set it up with my own settings. Haven't had any problems...
I haven't used the indigo soundcard, but I've had experience with a Focusrite Saffire and Firebox. Both work well for me... I kind of prefer the Firebox for a mobile set-up. |
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| Ry Thomas |
| Wait until January if you can for the new beasts from ASUS |
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| kitphillips |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ray_Chappell
That cracks me up every time I see it. ;)
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Glad to be of some service:) |
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| AndreiD |
You can get a laptop with Windows XP on it.
Windows isn't unstable, it's stupid users that make it unstable, and alot of windows users sadly are complete morons and that's why some of them recommend MAC or Linux. Personally I never hand a problem with windows XP for years now, and never saw a virus on it (I use Avast antivirus - IT's FREE!)
If you get a laptop with 1 GB DDR2 and a Intel Core 2 Duo CPU you can't go wrong. Also you can ask the shop from where you buy the laptop if you can install an extra 1 GB DDR2 module for the comfort that it won't stall when it's out of RAM.
Dell laptops are very sturdy, also I saw some great Toshiba laptops. (Try to find one with an 8 cell battery, it lasts longer than the standard 6 cell)
As for the sound card, you really don't need to get a PCMCIA sound card, you can get a nice USB sound card (yeah, the USB sound card will be less portable, but most of them aren't really heavy, and you can carry them with ease).
For an USB sound card I recommend the E-MU 0404 USB, it's really one of the best sounding external cards om the market atm. Lots of switches and extremely good specs make it ideal.
Hope my advice was usefull. |
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| echosystm |
| quote: | Originally posted by AndreiD
Windows isn't unstable, it's stupid users that make it unstable, and alot of windows users sadly are complete morons and that's why some of them recommend MAC or Linux. |
I think you will find most morons can't even work out how to install a basic Linux distro... let alone something like Arch or Gentoo. My bet is you don't even know what X.org is. If so, think real hard about what I am saying, and stop talking out your ass. You can't get away with it on TA.com. :p
As far as the actual OS is concerned, OSX and Linux will be more stable than XP for two reasons:
1. The kernels are designed much better, theres no doubt about it - this is the kind of refinement only open source can give you (OSX is based on the BSD kernel, which is the closest modern decendant from AT&T Unix).
2. OSX supports nothing but Mac hardware. The benefits of a closed design like this are pretty ing obvious.
Now, lets look at the next section of your argument; "windows users are complete morons" (you're one of them I assume). So, if a person is a moron and is incapable of running XP because they keep messing it up, you are implying that they SHOULD be recommended a Mac. This is what everyone IS doing. Can you see the problem in your argument here? :stongue:
Furthermore, if you were aware of how much of a gamble Dells are for audio work you would not be recommending them ("ground noise"). The only 100% safe brands for this is Apple. They are the only manufacturer who ensure this problem does not exist, obviously because they are a niche which caters for a large population of musicians. Next best bet is Asus because they are made by the same company as Macs. Also, that is a crap soundcard for mobile users - it isn't bus powered.
For the record, Dell has had to recall 4.2 million batteries over the years (mainly due to them exploding/catching on fire). I would hardly say Dells are sturdy. |
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| AndreiD |
I think this link can describe best what I would say :
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse...cgi?u=macs_cant
I may have a problem but I really don't understand what you wanted to say with : | quote: | | Next best bet is Asus because they are made by the same company as Macs. |
Maybe I'm wrong but did you just say that ASUS = Apple ? :eyespop: check it out more mate, you are poorly informed.
As for the audio card I suggested, the E-MU 0404 USB, probably if you didn't have your head in your ass you would have acknowledged that it's the best sounding card you can buy for 199$, but it has it's downsides, not being as portable as a PCMCIA card, as I ALREADY STATED in the upper post.
Maybe if you don't believe me, you can believe the people at headfi.org.
As for Dells, if you get one from an authorized Dell dealer you will get a warranty which you can easily use in case of any problems.
| quote: | | For the record, Dell has had to recall 4.2 million batteries over the years (mainly due to them exploding/catching on fire). I would hardly say Dells are sturdy. |
I don't remember dell releasing this info, check your info again. And really, EXPLODING/CATCHING ON FIRE? that cracked me all up :happy2:
I should tell some of my buddies they have bombs in their laptops and should throw them out the window.
By chance, I happened to work for a hardware retailed a year ago and out of a couple hundred Dell laptops sold, only 2 came back for RMA.
And as far as OS stability goes, in my opinion, all OSs are stable, it depends on how the owner uses them. Maybe I wasn't so concise in the upper post. Also, the availability of audio hardware and software for Windows is A LOT greater than for the MAC.
Some laptops also come bundled with WINDOWS VISTA which in many ways is superior to MAC, but it has some problems with drivers (some companies have beta versions and some don't even have driver versions for Vista, but happily E-MU and most audio hardware companies have already released Vista drivers).
So again, mate check your info. |
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| echosystm |
FLAMEWAR! :whip:
:D
You're quoting Maddox? You just lost 10 points in this debate.
| quote: | Originally posted by AndreiD
Maybe I'm wrong but did you just say that ASUS = Apple ?
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Yes. ASUS manufacture most Sony, Apple, Samsung (I think...) and ASUS (obviously) laptops. I guess you were like most people and thought Apple actually made them themselves... lol.
| quote: | Originally posted by AndreiD
I don't remember dell releasing this info, check your info again. And really, EXPLODING/CATCHING ON FIRE? that cracked me all up :happy2:
I should tell some of my buddies they have bombs in their laptops and should throw them out the window.
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http://support.dell.com/support/top...ll/en/main?c=us
http://www.computerworld.com/action...ticleId=9002459
I'm sure Dell hush up a lot of their failures. It is probably a good idea you inform your friends; they might lose their testicles.
| quote: | Originally posted by AndreiD
By chance, I happened to work for a hardware retailed a year ago and out of a couple hundred Dell laptops sold, only 2 came back for RMA.
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I worked as a tech for a retailer for 2 years. I still work there, but not in a technical position. We don't even sell Dell and I repaired more Dells than laptops we sold to our own customers.
| quote: | Originally posted by AndreiD
And as far as OS stability goes, in my opinion, all OSs are stable
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lol. Try to get 99.9% uptime out of XP, it won't happen.
| quote: | Originally posted by AndreiD
Some laptops also come bundled with WINDOWS VISTA which in many ways is superior to MAC
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Tell me how. I would love to know. Wait! I know... it is all the security features that MACS DON'T NEED. Oh! It is also the WaveRT driver format anyone is yet to use (core audio is still probably better).
| quote: | Originally posted by AndreiD
So again, mate check your info. |
Your turn. :p
EDIT: Actually... I cbf doing this. You can't cure "stupid". You win, XP is the best thing ever made... |
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| AndreiD |
| quote: | | Yes. ASUS manufacture most Sony, Apple, Samsung (I think...) and ASUS (obviously) laptops. I guess you were like most people and thought Apple actually made them themselves... lol. |
Dude STFU before you say more idiotic things.
ASUS doesn't build SONY laptops. (period) (Yes, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENT, NOT THE PAST, NOR THE FUTURE)
And as for Apple, the fact that a Chinese newspaper speculates that ASUS makes the MacBook is irrelevant, for God's sake, do you actually believe all the crap you find on google?
Samsung is the world second largest semiconductor manufacturer after Intel, they have enough fabs to make they whatever they wish. Even dildos if they want :D :p
The fact that Dell said that some batteries OVERHEATED doesn't mean that they "EXPLODE/CATCH ON FIRE" (I quoted from your earlier post). Get real. :D
| quote: | | lol. Try to get 99.9% uptime out of XP, it won't happen. |
O rly ?
That's an internet connection pic, my PC has been up & running for about 2 months now. :p
| quote: | | Tell me how. I would love to know. Wait! I know... it is all the security features that MACS DON'T NEED. Oh! It is also the WaveRT driver format anyone is yet to use (core audio is still probably better). |
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Want...-OS-61677.shtml
Then why does the MAC have more exploited security flaws than Vista? :wtf:
Lets end this flame war, the thread poster will choose whatever he wishes to chose, I think we bouth made our points and it's worthless to continue and besides that we are seriously off topic :)
Maybe we should make a MAC v Win thread... (like there aren't 12032 already) :D |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
lol. Try to get 99.9% uptime out of XP, it won't happen.
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Record Uptime: (1m 2w 6d 19h 28m 50s set on Tue Sep 26 14:08:29 2006) |
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