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| Fir3start3r |
Why anyone would even 'go there' is beyond me.
We're a tolerant people, but we're not dumb.
Why not just slap up some signs of Pol Pot or Hitler while we're at it? :rolleyes:
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Sign splits Lebanese, riles Jews
Hezbollah leader depicted
Dalson Chen
Windsor Star
Saturday, August 11, 2007
DIVISIVE: Ghina Maawie said the men on the billboard at Marion Avenue and Wyandotte Street East represent peace. Some other groups don't agree.
CREDIT: Ian Willms, Windsor Star
DIVISIVE: Ghina Maawie said the men on the billboard at Marion Avenue and Wyandotte Street East represent peace. Some other groups don't agree.
Members of the Jewish and Lebanese Christian communities in Windsor are outraged by the appearance of a billboard that appears to promote Hezbollah -- an organization the Canadian government considers terrorist.
"That organization is banned in Canada," said Harvey Kessler, executive director of the Windsor Jewish Community Centre. "How can that billboard be up in Windsor when it represents a terrorist organization which is banned under the laws of Canada?"
Located at the southwest corner of Marion Avenue and Wyandotte Street East, the billboard does not mention Hezbollah by name, but features a central image of Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of the controversial political and military group that represents Lebanese Shia Muslims and has clashed with Israeli troops for more than 20 years.
OPPOSITE OF PEACE
Kessler said he feels Nasrallah represents "the opposite of peace."
"It should be offensive to all people living in Windsor. It should be offensive not only to the Jewish community, but to any Canadian."
Emile Nabbout, president of the Windsor branch of the Lebanese Christian political group Kataeb, said he also thinks Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, and he feels the billboard creates a misconception of the views of Windsor's Lebanese community.
"We really are not in support or in favour of that billboard and it should be removed ASAP," Nabbout said.
The image of Nasrallah is flanked by four other Lebanese political figures. "All those individuals in that picture... they are in opposition to the Lebanese government right now," Nabbout said.
"By just analyzing the picture, there is no doubt in my mind this is a Hezbollah activity," he added.
Printed in English on the left side of the billboard are the words: "Lebanese and Arab communities in Windsor city congratulate the Lebanese people for their steadfastness and endeavor to establish peace in Lebanon."
But Nabbout said that Arabic writing which appears on the right side of the billboard does not match the English translation. According to Nabbout, the Arabic writing makes a reference to fighting.
"What they mean by 'fight' is basically 'guerrilla' -- using arms and weapons," Nabbout said. "Basically, there is a very specific word... That is a definite difference between the Arabic and the English."
Contacted on Friday night, Mayor Eddie Francis said he was made aware of the billboard earlier in the day. Asked if he is concerned about its presence, Francis said: "The politics of Lebanon belong in Lebanon, not on the streets of Windsor."
Francis said he has no idea who was responsible for the billboard, but the city is now looking into whether its content violates any rules.
Kessler said he has talked to Chief Glenn Stannard of Windsor police about the billboard, as well as the mayor. He said he has made calls to councillors, the city's race and ethnocultural relations committee, RCMP and CSIS.
"I understand that everyone is looking at strategies under the Canadian law to get it down. Because it is not appropriate," Kessler said.
Nabbout said members of the Lebanese Christian community have made calls to local MPs Joe Comartin and Brian Masse about the issue.
But Sam Ali, a 39-year-old Lebanese-born Windsor resident, said he supports the billboard's message, and he believes many in the city's Lebanese population feel the same way.
According to Ali, the accusations that Hezbollah is terrorist are untrue. "Hezbollah is freedom fighting. Whoever calls them terrorist is a liar," he said.
Ali, a Muslim, said Nasrallah has done good things, helping people with hospitals and medicine. "When Nasrallah speaks in Lebanon, a million and a half or two million people go into the street to listen."
Fellow Lebanese native and Muslim Ghina Maawie said she doesn't understand why anyone would be offended by the billboard. "When I saw it, I felt so happy and so proud of it," she said. "In Canada, we have freedom of speech."
Maawie also dismissed the criticisms of Hezbollah. "For anyone to defend Lebanon, they call them terrorist. All we did is defend our country."
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| Sunsnail |
| Hmm, do you think free speech laws extend far enough to protect someone who wants to put up a picture of anti-government figures on a billboard? |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
Hmm, do you think free speech laws extend far enough to protect someone who wants to put up a picture of anti-government figures on a billboard? |
Last I checked there isn't free speech in Canada. There is however freedom of expression, but it comes at a price, ie. it has consequences. I do believe the charter of rights has a clause on things that can not be expressed. Not 100% sure on that though. |
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| Magnetonium |
This ad has absolutely no positive goals ... we all know Hezbollah and what its strategies, actions and goals are (against Canadian policies). And its undermining the local communities, primarily the Jewish, Lebanese, etc. ones. |
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| Fir3start3r |
What I don't understand is, why post something like that here in Canada? :conf:
Especially when it's going to ruffle feathers... |
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| atbell |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
This ad has absolutely no positive goals ... |
Are there ads with positive goals?
Ok, maybe deoderant adds, but give me some others... |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by atbell
Are there ads with positive goals?
Ok, maybe deoderant adds, but give me some others... |
When an organization is labeled terrorist in Canada, when the message is clearly wrong, and when there's bad blood brewing in the community ... you know that it has negative goals, splitting community and offending people. This is dangerous. The message is dangerous. Therefore, the ad should be removed. Maybe back in Lebanon this is OK, but this is Canada, and we dont need foreign public political manipulations here in Canada. There's a reason why life is better here. |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
When an organization is labeled terrorist in Canada, when the message is clearly wrong, and when there's bad blood brewing in the community ... you know that it has negative goals, splitting community and offending people. This is dangerous. The message is dangerous. Therefore, the ad should be removed. Maybe back in Lebanon this is OK, but this is Canada, and we dont need foreign public political manipulations here in Canada. There's a reason why life is better here. |
You and I don't normally agree Mag but I'm definitely agreeing with you here.
It also brings to light the question of, "If you came to Canada because it's so great here, why did you bring your garbage with you and what makes them think we'd just take it?"
Because we simply excepted them to Canada in the first place?
Successful immigration to Canada isn't a green light to continue previous political debauchery here where the laws are quite different. |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
It also brings to light the question of, "If you came to Canada because it's so great here, why did you bring your garbage with you and what makes them think we'd just take it?"
Because we simply excepted them to Canada in the first place?
Successful immigration to Canada isn't a green light to continue previous political debauchery here where the laws are quite different. |
Definitely. Its what makes Canada so good, only idiots come here for a better life and try to establish their doomed, failed and gloom living methods and ideologies here in Canada. The smart thing is to drop their hypocrytic religiousness and self-defeating goals and embrace the life thats worth living. Thats what made Canada successful, and the opposite standards that are used in these foreign countries have resulted in their problems - but many people are hypocrite ignorant bastards and refuse to acknowledge the problems.
I am not so bad once you get to know me. I love Canada, I support its institutions and ideologies, and I strongly oppose anything that threatens it. You guys get a bad impression of me, because on certain occassions I defend Hezbollah for right reasons, and on others like this I oppose - there's a reason why I received the deacription of "Genuine Analyst" in the PersonalDNA quiz :p . Hezbollah might have right intentions back in Lebanon, but not here in Canada. One thing for a fact - its been documented that Hezbollah operatives who live in the Western countries send good portions of their income to Hezbollah to fund their activities.
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| Zharen |
| Agree with you guys on this. Middle Eastern politics have no place in Canada, much less a street in Windsor. Hopefully they'll take it down, ridiculous divisive garbage. |
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