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> Live performance - de-layering tracks or what??
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| blacknoizybox |
ive been watching video footage of live performances of The Chemical Brothers @ Red Rock, and Underworld @ Cocoon, and i was thinking:
(they inggg ROCK!!!!!!!)
well, how do they prepare their live performance? how do they play their tracks "live" when those tracks already exist recorded and complete
i mean, how do they decide what elements in the track should be played live (pads, synth riffs and stuff) and what thing are left prerecorded and just mixed into the whole sound.. they cant just repeat the whole track from scratch i.e. utilizing the drumbox, synths, bass machines, effects and all at the same time, no way..
what do you think??? |
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| s3nate |
If they are pro they would play it all from scratch (probably extremely difficult to do though).
They probably use something like Ableton |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by s3nate
They probably use something like Ableton |
I don't know what Underworld is doing now, but in the days of the "Everything, Everything" DVD, their setup was a lot more than just Ableton ;) |
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| Stu Cox |
I'm afraid I think the Chems are all pretty much prerecorded now - I saw them about 2 years ago and they were awesome, don't get me wrong, but the whole show felt a bit too preplanned to be very live, if at all.
All of the graphics on screen fitted too perfectly with the sound etc.
If it wasn't pretty much prerecorded, then it was all rehearsed to the nth degree with the VJs, lighting teams etc
As I say, ing spectacular show, I'm not trying to slate them at all - it was wicked and I'm seeing them again in December, very much looking forward to it! But I doubt that much of it is live. |
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| Tony Morello |
if you watch the everything everything dvd you'll notice they're routing everything through their mixing console
all they're doing is muting and un-muting channels as elements come in and leave the song
new song, they open up a new set of elements and have at er again
pretty simple and effective
abelton is not the answer for everything, sorry to burst your bubble |
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| blacknoizybox |
| do you think its possible to play say "Two Months Off" totaly from scratch (excluding the female vocal ofcourse)? |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
I don't know what Underworld is doing now, but in the days of the "Everything, Everything" DVD, their setup was a lot more than just Ableton ;) |
They still use pretty much everything you saw in the DVD, and they do incorporate Ableton in their livesets. Check out the video of Cowgirl/Rez from Moscow they have posted on their site to get a good look at their gear.
| quote: | Originally posted by blacknoizybox
do you think its possible to play say "Two Months Off" totaly from scratch (excluding the female vocal ofcourse)? |
What do you mean, "from scratch"? |
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| s3nate |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
What do you mean, "from scratch"? |
I think scratch meaning making the whole song on the spot with drum machines, synths and whatever else they need. |
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| G-Con |
As an amateur producer myself, I've always wondered just how much of a live set is actually live. I've seen above & beyond play a live set. They had all their fancy equipment but the tunes sounded exactly like the pre-recorded version so I was and am very suspicious as to how much really is live.
Mind you, have you seen the Moby closing set at Glastonbury... me! |
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| SPAWNmaster |
| quote: | Originally posted by G-Con
As an amateur producer myself, I've always wondered just how much of a live set is actually live. I've seen above & beyond play a live set. They had all their fancy equipment but the tunes sounded exactly like the pre-recorded version so I was and am very suspicious as to how much really is live.
Mind you, have you seen the Moby closing set at Glastonbury... me! |
stay skeptical. true live performance will rarely sound like studio versions and its quite difficult to manage if you're one guy doing it. when done right though (a la stephan bodzin who does sort of a fusion of traditional mixing + live lemur action) it can rock the house. id say step sequencers are the way to go but thats just my opinion. |
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