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Krypton
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Originally posted by Magnetonium


Ummmm, what about leachate? What about contaminating drinking water that percolates into the ground and then circulates back to rivers and lakes ("Water Cycle")? This idea [of underground landfills] is far fetched and financially not feasable. The amount of garbage simply requires some really massive deep holes with proper insulating materials to prevent any dangerous substances from leaking out and contaminating the ground. Its a proven fact that leachate can contaminate water considerable distance away upstream from population without them knowing it. Though abandoned mines are a good option, but sometimes they dont provide a long-term and environmentally safe options.


Those are small issues that can be dealt with. They already have these things in a few places. And they work just fine.
Trancer-X
I thought that much of our recycled plastics were sold to China, especially e-waste, polyethylene and PVC. :conf:
Magnetonium
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Originally posted by Krypton
Those are small issues that can be dealt with. They already have these things in a few places. And they work just fine.


Oh yeah, clean drinking water is a "small issue". :rolleyes:
Sunsnail
They process the water before you drink it.
Magnetonium
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Originally posted by Sunsnail
They process the water before you drink it.



Along with chlorine, fluoride that is added to drinking water and other particles that can sometimes miss the filtering process ...

and all that is then later released back into the environment. On occassions when the rainstorms are very powerful, the sewer processing plant becomes so overwhelmed, that some sewage is released with minimal treatment into the environment. As part of my course, I went to the sewer processing station. I was on the "clean" side where the processed water is coming out into the lake Ontario. The stench is just overwhelming ... right INTO the lake.

I've recently read a book "Our Stolen Future" by Theo Colborn which goes in detail about how badly polluted our waters are, and environment in general, the pathogens, the chemical, biological agents released into the environment from pharmaceuticals; and even my college professor from solid waste management class last week told us about stories how when he worked in Toronto he tried catching a pharmaceutical company dumping illegal waste into the STORM sewers, because much down the line it was obvious ...

OK, we have really wandered off the topic. New thread - or - end of discussion.
Trancer-X
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Originally posted by Sunsnail
They process the water before you drink it.


They floridate it pretty well, too - and Sodium Floride can only be removed by R/O or steam distillation.

"Fluoridation... it is the greatest fraud that has ever been perpetrated and it has been perpetrated on more people than any other fraud has."

- Professor Albert Schatz, Ph.D.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...n.aspx?aid=CD12

Anyway, I think that this webpage speaks volumes concerning the possible negative health effects from plastics.
Krypton
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Originally posted by Magnetonium


Oh yeah, clean drinking water is a "small issue". :rolleyes:


So, what keep using oil? With every new technology, there are kinks to work out. SO by your logic, just ing give up? My Lord.:whip:
DJ Shibby
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Originally posted by Trancer-X
They floridate it pretty well, too - and Sodium Floride can only be removed by R/O or steam distillation.

"Fluoridation... it is the greatest fraud that has ever been perpetrated and it has been perpetrated on more people than any other fraud has."

- Professor Albert Schatz, Ph.D.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...n.aspx?aid=CD12

Anyway, I think that this webpage speaks volumes concerning the possible negative health effects from plastics.


That's why I only drink distilled water. :D
DJ Shibby
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Originally posted by Magnetonium


Oh yeah, clean drinking water is a "small issue". :rolleyes:


It's pretty straightforward:

- evaporate and recondense
- run through sand and activated carbon (aka charcoal)
- add chemicals
- drink
Magnetonium
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Originally posted by DJ Shibby
That's why I only drink distilled water. :D


You are such a hypocrite. First you say that the drinking water is good safe and clean, and now you follow up with that comment ... prosecution rests.


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Originally posted by Krypton
So, what keep using oil? With every new technology, there are kinks to work out. SO by your logic, just ing give up? My Lord.:whip:


I didnt say give up. I just know that are cleaner and more efficient methods available at hand which will not be implemented because its financially and economically not feasable. While we dont realize that ignoring the issues results in serious environmental damage.

There's no end in sight to the continuing campaign of the destruction of the resources of this planet, I mean, they did studies at lake on Geneva and found all kinds of chemicals they never expected to even see (and not from local areas). One day we'll be wearing radiation suits and depending on chemicals to provide clean food because the environment is cotinuously getting polluted.



Fir3start3r
I just finished bundling my boxes for pickup tomorrow....


What? :p
Magnetonium
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Originally posted by Krypton


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For the purposes of this discussion, pharmaceutical (and veterinary and illicit) drugs (and the ingredients in cosmetics, food supplements, and other personal care products), together with their respective metabolites and transformation products, will collectively be referred to as pharmaceuticals and personal care products. PPCPs are continually infused into the environment via sewage treatment facilities and wet weather runoff. In many instances, untreated sewage is discharged into receiving waters (e.g., flood overload events, domestic "straight-piping," or sewage waters lacking municipal treatment). In the United States alone, possibly more than a million homes do not have sewage systems but instead rely on direct discharge of raw sewage into streams by straight-piping or by outhouses not connected to leach fields (1). A number of Canadian cities are reported to discharge 3.25 billion liters per day (over 1 trillion liters per year) of essentially untreated sewage into surface waters and the ocean (2). Raw/treated sewage is also disposed of from some locales in the deep ocean where it may possibly remix with upper waters.


Have some fun reading these reliable articles I quickly found:

http://www.ameliaww.com/fpin/ProductsEnv.htm

http://www.environmentaldefense.org...0Guidelines.htm

http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jan...02-01-31-07.asp

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