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Yet another underwater ancient city discovered (pg. 5)
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
:haha: i've been to AUTEC many times (FYI there is another facility similar to it in Hawaii. been there too)
i was on submarine out of NLON. all of the East Coast boats go there at least once a year to for acoustic trials. i won a raffle to get off the boat for some 24 hr. R&R on Andros Island. there is literaly nothing there but some piece of crap base for the hydrophone support facility or something. REAL innocuous BTW. did a swim call there in the Tongue of the Ocean. 12,000 ft of some of the bluest<--spelling? water i've seen.
The Tongue of the Ocean is just a geographically ideal place to do acoustic testing and monitoring of US Navy platforms and weapons. no big whoop at all. there some security because Russian U-boats used to like to go there and play voyuer to our testing but i wouldn't qualify Andros as "Ultra Top Secret":rolleyes: |
hear that sound kids? that's reality's distant knock :haha: :haha:
thanks Q5 :) |
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| Q5echo |
the strangest thing i saw at AUTEC was flying fish. very cool.
up until that time i thought flying fish were legends like mermaids or some |
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| culorut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
the strangest thing i saw at AUTEC was flying fish. very cool.
up until that time i thought flying fish were legends like mermaids or some |
You need to see things to believe that they are real? Ever for once think that there are many more things which you will never see that actually exist?
Point proven. |
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| eROs.au |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
You need to see things to believe that they are real? Ever for once think that there are many more things which you will never see that actually exist?
Point proven. |
No, but it helps |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
You need to see things to believe that they are real? Ever for once think that there are many more things which you will never see that actually exist?
Point proven. |
Ahhh, asymmetrical scepticism at its finest! |
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| culorut |
Legend, LOL.
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
Legend, LOL.
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well, ive been told they're a secret government listening device, so despite all the evidence to the contrary, im going to believe that it is, because you can't prove that it isn't :toothless |
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| Magnetonium |
No offense to everyone here, but I dont like the direction of this thread at the moment. The purpose of this thread is not another conspiracy debate, but sharing of information on ancient civilizations, cultures and what they left for us to learn about them. I know its fun mocking the perfectly round rocks and giant seabed smooth structures for alien agenda, but thats far from the point.
I would like to make this thread a collection of links, photos, articles and such of ancient, lost and forgotten civilizations on Earth using the uncovered artifacts and/or related topics. I know I myself have probably deviated my own discussion, my apoligies, and I hope we dont end up filling up this thread with pointless and hopeless debate about UFO bases on the planet ... no matter of the beliefs.
When I posted all the information, I did it not with an intention of making it look like aliens did it all, but basically saying that there's more to our ancestors that what history is telling us. Our ancestors had access to far more sophisticated knowledge and technology that we could have ever thought of, but all of it was lost in history and time. Maybe aliens (or more likely past advanced civilizations) did play a role, the emphasis is to study more about these things and put into perspective the possible technology and knowledge at the time used, and the key point is to try to do some of your own follow-up research and conclusions. |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
magnetonium thinks it was aliens. |
You believe it was terrorism :wtf: |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
You need to see things to believe that they are real? Ever for once think that there are many more things which you will never see that actually exist?
Point proven. |
c'mon dude don't be bitter...and petty
i disagreed with your story based on past personal experience, f**kin sue me.
forget it. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by culorut
Legend, LOL.
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hey, some kids just don't get out. i didn't know. i grew up in Texas. |
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| Magnetonium |
http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20071227/94372640.html
Remains of ancient civilization discovered on the bottom of a Kyrgyz lake
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An international archeological expedition to Lake Issyk Kul, high in the Kyrgyz mountains, proves the existence of an advanced civilization 25 centuries ago, equal in development to the Hellenic civilizations of the northern coast of the Pontus Euxinus (Black Sea) and the Mediterranean coast of Egypt.
The expedition resulted in sensational finds, including the discovery of major settlements, presently buried underwater. The data and artefacts obtained, which are currently under study, apply the finishing touches to the many years of exploration in the lake, made by seven previous expeditions. The addition of a previously unknown culture to the treasury of history extends the idea of the patterns and regularities of human development.
Kyrgyz historians, led by Vladimir Ploskikh, vice president of the Kyrgyz Academy of Sciences, worked side-by-side with Russian colleagues, lead by historian Svetlana Lukashova and myself. All the Russians involved were experienced skin-divers and members of the Russian Confederation of Underwater Sports. We were responsible for the work done under water. Scuba divers ventured into the lake many times to study its bottom.
Last year, we worked near the north coast at depths of 5-10 metres to discover formidable walls, some stretching for 500 meters-traces of a large city with an area of several square kilometers. In other words, it was a metropolis in its time. We also found Scythian burial mounds, eroded by waves over the centuries, and numerous well preserved artifacts-bronze battleaxes, arrowheads, self-sharpening daggers, objects discarded by smiths, casting molds, and a faceted gold bar, which was a monetary unit of the time.
Lake Issyk Kul has played a tremendous role since the inception of human history due to its geographic location at the crossing of Indo-Aryan and other nomadic routes. Archeologists found traces of many religions here-Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Somewhere in the vicinity was Chihu, the metropolitan city of a mighty state of Wusung nomads, which ancient Chinese chronicles mentioned on many occasions.
The Great Silk Road lay along the lake's coast until the 18th century. Even today, the descendants of caravan drivers recollect their ancestors' stories about travelling from Asia to Europe and back.
Tamerlane built a fortress on one of the lake islets to hold aristocratic captives and keep his treasures. The famous Asian expeditions of Russian explorers Dmitry Przhevalsky and Pyotr Semyonov-Tianshansky started from that spot.
The latter left us an enticing mystery. When he visited Venice in 1850, he looked at the Catalan Atlas of 1375 and came across a picture of a lakeside monastery with the caption: "The spot is named Isikol. Here is a monastery of Armenian brethren, which is rumored to possess the relics of St. Matthew the Apostle and Evangelist."
Semyonov-Tianshansky embarked on a relentless but vain search for the shrine. To all appearances, the monastery was engulfed by water. Hydrologists have not to this day sufficiently studied the unique lake with regular shifts in its water level. Some changes are gradual, others sudden and disastrous since they are caused by earthquakes and torrents of water rush from lakes higher up in the mountains. Floods recede sooner or later, and people come back to the shores-only to become the victims of other floods 500-700 years later.
Throughout the years of their partnership, Russian and Kyrgyz archeologists discovered and examined more than ten major flooded urban and rural settlements of varying ages. Their ample finds generously add to present-day ideas of everyday life in times long ago.
Some artifacts are stunning. A 2,500 year-old ritual bronze cauldron was found on the bottom of the lake. The subtlety of its craftsmanship is amazing. Such excellent quality of joining details together can be presently obtained by metalwork in an inert gas. How did ancient people achieve their high-tech perfection? Also of superb workmanship are bronze mirrors, festive horse harnesses and many other objects. Articles identified as the world's oldest extant coins were also found underwater-gold wire rings used as small change and a large hexahedral goldpiece.
Side by side with the settlements are remnants of ritual complexes of times immemorial, dwellings and household outbuildings. Later expeditions will study them.
The information collected there allows us to conjecture that local people had a socio-economic system hitherto unknown to historians. As a blending of nomadic and settled life, it either gradually evolved into something different or-more likely-was destroyed by one of the many local floods. Legends confirm the latter assumption.
Nikolai Lukashov, a member of the Russian Confederation of Underwater Sports, took part in the the Issyk Kul expedition.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...how/2658962.cms
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The expedition resulted in sensational finds, including the discovery of major settlements, presently buried underwater.
The data and artifacts obtained, which are currently under study, apply the finishing touches to the many years of exploration in the lake, made by seven previous expeditions.
The discovery consisted of formidable walls, some stretching for 500 meters-traces of a large city with an area of several square kilometers.
Other findings included Scythian burial mounds, eroded by waves over the centuries, and numerous well preserved artifacts-bronze battleaxes, arrowheads, self-sharpening daggers, objects discarded by smiths, casting molds, and a faceted gold bar, which was a monetary unit of the time.
All these discoveries suggest that the ancient city was a metropolis in its time.
Some artifacts are in fact so stunning that they point towards an advanced civilization.
For example, a 2,500 year-old ritual bronze cauldron was found on the bottom of the lake. The subtlety of its craftsmanship is amazing. Such excellent quality of joining details together can only be obtained presently by metalwork in an inert gas.
Also of superb workmanship are bronze mirrors, festive horse harnesses and many other objects. Articles identified as the world's oldest extant coins were also found underwater-gold wire rings used as small change and a large hexahedral goldpiece.
Side by side with the settlements are remnants of ritual complexes of times immemorial, dwellings and household outbuildings.
According to the researchers, the findings lead to the speculation that the local people at that time had a socio-economic system hitherto unknown to historians. As a blending of nomadic and settled life, it either gradually evolved into something different or-more likely-was destroyed by one of the many local floods.
Lake Issyk Kul has played a tremendous role since the inception of human history due to its geographic location at the crossing of Indo-Aryan and other nomadic routes. Archeologists found traces of many religions here-Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
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