|
Ahmadinejad to speak at the Columbia University (pg. 11)
|
View this Thread in Original format
| Lebezniatnikov |
| quote: | Originally posted by CHRles
It was soooo insulting that most of the audience cheered on Columbia's University president and clapped their hands. |
Again. That's a logical fallacy. Whether or not people agreed with what he said has nothing to do with whether or not it was insulting. And you're carefully neglecting to note that Ahmadenijad was applauded equally loudly for immediately calling out Mr. Bollinger for his lack of academic integrity. |
|
|
| Jake Benson |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
wow so now you are comparing him to the KKK?whats next? |
Both are bad, but he's worse than the KKK and here's why: the KKK are largely underground, and don't lynch unless they're expecting swift, severe remifications. On the contrary, it appears that Pres Ahmadblowjob's country openly allows gays to be hung with NO ramifications.
I would equate Iranian's current president to Adolf Hitler because both attempt to "clense" their country by executing an entire group of people.
| quote: | Originally posted by CHRles
Appearantly you can find more Iranian gay men in clubs in New York or Amsterdam then you can find in all of Iran. How odd... |
There's a huge group of Iranian gays (a lot of them Jews too) out here in LA. They're really stuck up, but funny as hell at the same time. I'm glad they escaped Iranian persecution. |
|
|
| Q5echo |
Hitler on the ‘peace image’ in secret address to German press (November 1938):
“Circumstances have compelled me to speak for decades almost solely of peace. Only through continued emphasis on the German desire for peace and intentions of peace was it possible for me…to provide the German people with the armaments which were always necessary as the basis of the next step. It goes without saying that such a peace propaganda which has been cultivated for years also has its doubtful side; for it can only too easily lead to the view being formed in the minds of many people that the present regime identifies with the determination and the will to maintain peace under all circumstances.” |
|
|
| spiflicated |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
Hitler on the ‘peace image’ in secret address to German press (November 1938): |
How is an address to the press a "secret"? |
|
|
| shaolin_Z |
| quote: | Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
Uzi Mahnaimi, New York and Sarah Baxter, Washington
ISRAEL has drawn up secret plans to destroy Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities with tactical nuclear weapons.
Two Israeli air force squadrons are training to blow up an Iranian facility using low-yield nuclear “bunker-busters”, according to several Israeli military sources.
The attack would be the first with nuclear weapons since 1945, when the United States dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The Israeli weapons would each have a force equivalent to one-fifteenth of the Hiroshima bomb.
Under the plans, conventional laser-guided bombs would open “tunnels” into the targets. “Mini-nukes” would then immediately be fired into a plant at Natanz, exploding deep underground to reduce the risk of radioactive fallout.
“As soon as the green light is given, it will be one mission, one strike and the Iranian nuclear project will be demolished,” said one of the sources.
The plans, disclosed to The Sunday Times last week, have been prompted in part by the Israeli intelligence service Mossad’s assessment that Iran is on the verge of producing enough enriched uranium to make nuclear weapons within two years.
Israeli military commanders believe conventional strikes may no longer be enough to annihilate increasingly well-defended enrichment facilities. Several have been built beneath at least 70ft of concrete and rock. However, the nuclear-tipped bunker-busters would be used only if a conventional attack was ruled out and if the United States declined to intervene, senior sources said.
Israeli and American officials have met several times to consider military action. Military analysts said the disclosure of the plans could be intended to put pressure on Tehran to halt enrichment, cajole America into action or soften up world opinion in advance of an Israeli attack.
Some analysts warned that Iranian retaliation for such a strike could range from disruption of oil supplies to the West to terrorist attacks against Jewish targets around the world.
Israel has identified three prime targets south of Tehran which are believed to be involved in Iran’s nuclear programme:
Natanz, where thousands of centrifuges are being installed for uranium enrichment
A uranium conversion facility near Isfahan where, according to a statement by an Iranian vice-president last week, 250 tons of gas for the enrichment process have been stored in tunnels
A heavy water reactor at Arak, which may in future produce enough plutonium for a bomb
Israeli officials believe that destroying all three sites would delay Iran’s nuclear programme indefinitely and prevent them from having to live in fear of a “second Holocaust”.
The Israeli government has warned repeatedly that it will never allow nuclear weapons to be made in Iran, whose president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has declared that “Israel must be wiped off the map”.
Robert Gates, the new US defence secretary, has described military action against Iran as a “last resort”, leading Israeli officials to conclude that it will be left to them to strike.
Israeli pilots have flown to Gibraltar in recent weeks to train for the 2,000-mile round trip to the Iranian targets. Three possible routes have been mapped out, including one over Turkey.
Air force squadrons based at Hatzerim in the Negev desert and Tel Nof, south of Tel Aviv, have trained to use Israel’s tactical nuclear weapons on the mission. The preparations have been overseen by Major General Eliezer Shkedi, commander of the Israeli air force.
Sources close to the Pentagon said the United States was highly unlikely to give approval for tactical nuclear weapons to be used. One source said Israel would have to seek approval “after the event”, as it did when it crippled Iraq’s nuclear reactor at Osirak with airstrikes in 1981.
Scientists have calculated that although contamination from the bunker-busters could be limited, tons of radioactive uranium compounds would be released.
The Israelis believe that Iran’s retaliation would be constrained by fear of a second strike if it were to launch its Shehab-3 ballistic missiles at Israel.
However, American experts warned of repercussions, including widespread protests that could destabilise parts of the Islamic world friendly to the West.
Colonel Sam Gardiner, a Pentagon adviser, said Iran could try to close the Strait of Hormuz, the route for 20% of the world’s oil.
Some sources in Washington said they doubted if Israel would have the nerve to attack Iran. However, Dr Ephraim Sneh, the deputy Israeli defence minister, said last month: “The time is approaching when Israel and the international community will have to decide whether to take military action against Iran.” |
Souce: TimesOnline |
|
|
| LazFX |
damn it Z, I really wanted to hear your POV on this..... even though I clown your ass, you know I respect you. |
|
|
| Jake Benson |
| quote: | Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Revealed: Israel plans nuclear strike on Iran
|
It's about time! |
|
|
| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by CHRles
And yet, I'm already working on a Masters. As I've stated in another post, my first degree was from a university in FL, and as most ppl on this forum know my political leanings tilt more on the left. |
Are you kidding me? You are a flaming right ring conservative.:wtf:
You support the Iraq war, support Bush, pro-Israel, and pro-emptive warfare doctrine.
Do you believe in the drug war? If yes, you ain't a leftie.. |
|
|
| CHRles |
So no one on the left supports Bush at least on some issues? That's news to me.
No one on the left is pro-Israeli? You might want to let Bill Clinton know that. Hell, last time I checked most Jews in America tend to vote Democrat.
The situation with Iran is bipartisan. You're just as likely to see war being waged on Iran from a president from the Democratic party as you are with a president from the right.
As for the war in Iraq, it's definitely not one of the Bush adminstration's finest moments, that's for sure. It was poorly assessed, and done half assed. Doesn't mean a Democrat president wouldn't have gone into Iraq post 9/11 either though, now does it? Based on the intel the US gathered prior to going into Iraq there was a good chance the US was going to do something about it regardless of whose in charge.
It's just so easy for the opposing party, in this case the Democrat party, to critize the failures of this war, just as some Republicans openly critize it.
Right wing conservatives are all about cutting down on taxes as much as possible, tend to be fairly religious, and thhink the US is better then everyone else. I'm none of those things.
As for the war on drugs, I don't do any drugs so I could care less. I'd prolly give a damn about it though if I had kids, which is why I suspect it's an issue with BOTH parties. |
|
|
| Sunsnail |
I hate it when the news reports on "secret plans"
It's obviously not a secret. |
|
|
| Kapedan |
I thought it was great for Columbia University to invite him. As much as I think he is a nut case, it shows how great of a country we are. We do not let other peoples opinions hurt our feelings. I also thought it was rude for the president of Columbia U to introduce the A man that way he did. Perhaps a closing statement would of been better stating on how the American people feel about what he is doing.
Anyone have a link of the whole video? |
|
|
| Sunsnail |
| I think a closing statement would have been worse. I think if he had to say anything at all, he should have phrased it, "some people think..." |
|
|
|
|
