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Can you hear the difference between 320 Kpbs MP3 and a WAV? (pg. 2)
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by spc
Yeah, I feel the same way.. I don't really notice much of a difference. But maybe it has more to do with my crappy earphones and a mediocre soundcard
edit: or maybe my ears just suck |
The absolute worst is when people try to tell me they can tell the difference in a club - they just can't, and they're fooling themselves thinking they can. |
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| spc |
the flac/lossless formats are killer in a club, the androids will praise you for your pristine sound quality.
anyway, i'm going thru diff quality mp3s right now and i can hardly tell the difference. i would say vinyl rips (mainly thanks to skips in dodgy vinyl rips), some 128 kbps rips, and anything at or below 96 kbps is what i can tell apart from the other music formats.
i once "obtained" a sasha & digweed northern exposure in FLAC and could barely tell any audible difference from the 320 kbps version. 700+ mbs? no thank you. maybe i'll give flac/lossless a go when 10 TB drives are a standard in computer technology |
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| Lira |
| I can't. But, even if I could, I grew up listening to cassette tapes, so I don't really mind these über-leet frequencies :p |
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Oh dear, another one of these. :nervous:
Needless to say, I'm of the persuasion that people who claim to be able to objectively tell the difference between a 320kbps MP3 and WAV are full of - and further, I'm fairly confident I could fool most people into thinking a 192KBPS MP3 was a 320. |
Bull. I can easily tell the difference between a WAV and a 320MP3 off Beatport. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
Easily?
Another test: pick an mp3 out of a lineup. Four different "lineup" files are used, and each comes with a CD-quality WAV file that you can use as a reference. Each sample is repeated five times within each lineup file. One of those five repetitions comes from a 320 Kbps MP3, and the other four come from the original CD-quality WAV. See if you can tell which of the five repetitions is the MP3:
Round one -- Peter Gabriel - "In Your Eyes":
Reference WAV 1
Lineup 1
Round Two -- Underworld - "Push Upstairs"
Reference WAV 2
Lineup 2
Round Three -- Hybrid - "True to Form"
Reference WAV 3
Lineup 3
Round Four -- Underworld - "Bruce Lee"
Reference WAV 4
Lineup 4 |
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| Akridrot |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Here we go. This is a WAV file made from a CD and various bitrates of MP3:
http://www.philosophaster.com/music/test/Gabriel.wav
1411 Kbps (WAV) -- 320 MP3 -- 256 -- 192 -- 128 -- 64 -- 32
The same four bars play seven times at seven different descending bitrates. At what point can you tell the difference? |
I'm sorry, but it sounds like its from one bitrate until 40 seconds where you hear an extreme decrease in quality. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by Akridrot
I'm sorry, but it sounds like its from one bitrate until 40 seconds where you hear an extreme decrease in quality. |
That's when it jumps from 128 down to 64 (halving the bitrate). Many people can't tell a difference at all before that. Some can tell a difference between 128 and higher bitrates.
I'm willing to bet that most people who say they can tell a difference between 320 and a WAV are mistaken, and even that most people can't tell a difference between 192 and a WAV (we can test that out as well if anyone wants to). |
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| KiNeTiC ENeRgY |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
That's when it jumps from 128 down to 64 (halving the bitrate). Many people can't tell a difference at all before that. Some can tell a difference between 128 and higher bitrates.
I'm willing to bet that most people who say they can tell a difference between 320 and a WAV are mistaken, and even that most people can't tell a difference between 192 and a WAV (we can test that out as well if anyone wants to). |
U can only tell a difference between 320/wav on bass heavy tracks and on a good system with subs..no way u can tell with mids and highs unless u get into 192's and lower..then it gets really tinny and distorted... |
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| jupiterone |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Oh dear, another one of these. :nervous:
Needless to say, I'm of the persuasion that people who claim to be able to objectively tell the difference between a 320kbps MP3 and WAV are full of - and further, I'm fairly confident I could fool most people into thinking a 192KBPS MP3 was a 320. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Heh, we'll see whether they're full of crap if one of them steps up and tries one of the tests. :p |
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| lücid |
| only if the track has Mandy Moore vocals. |
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