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Canadian Passport: New guarantor policy in effect (pg. 2)
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| harcourt |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
The point of a guarantor is just to prove to the government that you're really, truly a Canadian citizen. |
I don't even think they do that, since when has your dentist ever been asked or been capable of verifying your citizenship? The guarantor just looks at the pictures, agrees it's you, and says yes I've known you for x amount of time. If you're an illegal immigrant, that's wonderful, they have no idea, nor anyway of finding out. |
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| malek |
| New Government:rolleyes: :haha: |
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| Misanthrope |
| quote: | Originally posted by tatgirl
We dont have guarantors in the US and yet we dont have a problem w/passport fraud as far as I know. |
isn't that because it's so difficult to get American Citizenship? Not sure how it works, but I remember it took a friend more than 8 years to apply for a Green Card. is that true? |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by harcourt
I don't even think they do that, since when has your dentist ever been asked or been capable of verifying your citizenship? The guarantor just looks at the pictures, agrees it's you, and says yes I've known you for x amount of time. If you're an illegal immigrant, that's wonderful, they have no idea, nor anyway of finding out. |
I agree. You shouldn't need a guarantor at all if you have a valid birth certificate that shows that your parents were Canadian citizens (or landed immigrants) and that you were born somewhere in Canada. That type of ID is registered with the provincial government, so it's very easy to check on. And that's the point - guarantors are being reduced to just a formality now.
People forget that in order to successfully commit passport fraud, you would have to have already committed several other types of fraud. If somebody has already gone that far, then finding a crooked lawyer or doctor to sign a couple of papers and photos is going to be a walk in the park. Perhaps literally, accompanied by a couple of spliffs.
Oh and Misanthrope: it's also very difficult to get Canadian citizenship. It's not hard to enter and stay in the country, but if you actually want to pay taxes then you have to jump through a bunch of bureaucratic hoops, and it can take years too. |
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| Cro_Addict |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Oh and Misanthrope: it's also very difficult to get Canadian citizenship. It's not hard to enter and stay in the country, but if you actually want to pay taxes then you have to jump through a bunch of bureaucratic hoops, and it can take years too. |
I can't remember but we had to wait 5 years to be eligible to get canadian citizenship. My parents had to write a test on canadian history and and pass it to get their citizenship. I didn't since I was under 16 at the time.
Writing a test seems kinda stupid. I can gurantee you that if I gave that test to 100 Canadian born citizens that at least 70% wouldnt pass i t. |
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| Misanthrope |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
Oh and Misanthrope: it's also very difficult to get Canadian citizenship. It's not hard to enter and stay in the country, but if you actually want to pay taxes then you have to jump through a bunch of bureaucratic hoops, and it can take years too. |
it took me 9 months for immigration, four years to get my citizenship and 10 days for my passport.
that's why i'm curious. |
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| harcourt |
| quote: | Originally posted by Misanthrope
it took me 9 months for immigration, four years to get my citizenship and 10 days for my passport.
that's why i'm curious. |
Almost 5 years doesn't count as 'difficult'? :) |
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| phlog |
| quote: | Originally posted by tatgirl
In the US u dont even need a guarantor. The whole thing is retarded, especially when:
A) you need to do this every time you renew
B) your passports only last 5 yrs
ON a side note, I just got a new US passport yesterday- it feels so 'thick'- I swear there's some serious hardware hidden in those pages now. :nervous: |
If i remember correctly all new American passports have RFID chips embeded in them. The only way to disable these is to beat the out of your passport with a hammer(or any other blut object i suppose). This does not invalidate the passport nor is it illigal.... smashy smashy
however i doubt the RFID chip is responsible for passports thickness....? |
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| Misanthrope |
| quote: | Originally posted by harcourt
Almost 5 years doesn't count as 'difficult'? :) |
no. I was born and brought up in a country for 17 years, which doesn't even give citizenship out. 5 years is nothing! |
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| tatgirl |
| quote: | Originally posted by Misanthrope
isn't that because it's so difficult to get American Citizenship? Not sure how it works, but I remember it took a friend more than 8 years to apply for a Green Card. is that true? |
I've been trying to get landed residency for 7 yrs. If its not one thing, its another. I've already applied twice, and now Graham's history blocked us. Back of the line again for me. :( (I'm aiming to break a Canadian record at this point). |
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