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How not to DJ (pg. 4)
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| Oreoh142 |
| quote: | Originally posted by stan229
the politics /sucking factor always kills me though how people get gigs who shoudlnt be there, but those who dont have the gigs are also to blame for not trying hard enough, vicious circle |
yeah I know. I'm super lucky. My school has a radio station, so i get to advertise myself for free and what not, and my best friend's cousin owns one of the biggest mobile DJ companies in norcal and so cal, so i got really lucky with him. but yeah, i get what you mean. |
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| tvmann |
There was this club in town where the main DJ was bar manager too and he'd regularly go on the mic between tracks and shout loudly "ARE YOU READY TO PAAARTY?" and similar crap. Annoying!
He hired an assistant DJ and the new guy figures he's got to emulate the boss, so it's the same type of thing starting early, all night. No warmup tracks, just loud sh*tty obnoxious tunes starting 9 pm and those idiots on the mic. No beatmatching - just end-to-end tracks.
Oh yeah - the music - they used whatever was lying around the DJ booth on "promo-only" and other subscription series, mostly garbage. And the DJs are bragging that the music collection is worth $3,000.
They ran that place into the ground with bad DJing and trying to bring people in with cheap drinks. I pity the fool that owned that dump! Closed now, nobody would buy it. |
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| Beatflux |
| quote: | Originally posted by stan229
people who dj because they think it makes them cool should be forced to go deaf.
id even accept the least bit passion about the music but if the dj does it to get laid / public recognition he should be shot in the ear |
I don't really enjoy posers, but sometimes they'll introduce EDM to someone that will really care so I guess I don't mind so much. |
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| TheChuckster |
Anyone who doesn't either mix or perform turntablism (scratching, etc.) isn't really a DJ. The worst offenders are the "professional DJs" who set iTunes to play Top 40 pop songs in shuffle mode on their iBook hooked up to some poorly EQed, distorted loudspeakers. It's always the same tunes, too... every single one of them plays that same Ludacris track with the synth line and Sir Mixalot - Jump On It. Then they vary things up with some "techno"... aka Sandstorm. Don't people ever get sick of those songs? I usually get fed up after the third track and try to request something different, but of course, they don't ever have it in their massive 20 song back catalog. People like them make me want to pick up turntables myself and learn to mix.
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| Dojomaster26 |
| quote: | Originally posted by tvmann
There was this club in town where the main DJ was bar manager too and he'd regularly go on the mic between tracks and shout loudly "ARE YOU READY TO PAAARTY?" and similar crap. Annoying!
He hired an assistant DJ and the new guy figures he's got to emulate the boss, so it's the same type of thing starting early, all night. No warmup tracks, just loud sh*tty obnoxious tunes starting 9 pm and those idiots on the mic. No beatmatching - just end-to-end tracks.
Oh yeah - the music - they used whatever was lying around the DJ booth on "promo-only" and other subscription series, mostly garbage. And the DJs are bragging that the music collection is worth $3,000.
They ran that place into the ground with bad DJing and trying to bring people in with cheap drinks. I pity the fool that owned that dump! Closed now, nobody would buy it. |
LOL. This sounds kinda like the club I played my first residency at. The owners were total jerks, regularly forgot to pay the staff, and basically did what they could to please their little circle of [crack-whore] friends, while giving the shaft to everyone else. I am glad that I left when I did. About 6 months after leaving the place, it shuts down for 3 months, moves to downtown and re-opens under a different name. The original location turned into 24/7: The Church, which was actually a cool idea for a church/rock venue. That place got closed down because the church forgot to find a way to make money to pay the rent. That building is now occupied by some Latin club called Medusa. I doubt that they're going to stay open for more than a year judging by the rate at which businesses enter and leave that spot...
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I think you guys are missing the point behind Top40 DJs. They are not hired to mix tunes together. They are hired to select the best tunes for the occasion that most will know and enjoy. This does not include us. The fact is that most people outside of the EDM circles hate to hear a song that doesn't follow the verse-chorus-verse formula, and they especially hate to hear songs mixed together (Why? Because to most people, they need to have a definate end to the music so that they can get a drink/leave the floor, etc). Playing dance tunes and mixing them together throughout a night is a great way for a Top40 DJ to get fired!
Top40 DJing does, however, pay better than normal club DJing does. Unless you're Tiesto, pulling $400+ per gig to select tunes and maintain a sound system is a pretty good deal! I would do more Top40 gigs if they came around, but I would have to borrow Promo Only/Ultimix discs from someone since I don't keep up with those anymore.
Chuckster: I know your pain. I cringe when we go to 'spring fling' type events and such and we have to endure Top40 DJs. Just remember that what we hate to hear is exactly what tons of other people love to hear :( |
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| Rememberence_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by david.michael
Breakbeat is still four beats per bar. Just not a kick drum on every downbeat. You're confusing time signature with "four to the floor". |
Oh yeah? My mistake, I have no idea what a time signature is to be honest. Better do some reading :confused: |
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| DJ HARN |
| A former mate of mine done a party at a 90th birthday, so obviously by gauging the audience he would play some older stuff from the 60's and 70's, but no, he insisted on playing trance & hard house. I know it sounds risky, and it was, but some of the grannies enjoyed dancing to Oceanlab's Satellite!!! |
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| Invasionmix |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ HARN
but some of the grannies enjoyed dancing to Oceanlab's Satellite!!! |
I wish I was there to witness that lol |
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| cmay119 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ HARN
A former mate of mine done a party at a 90th birthday, so obviously by gauging the audience he would play some older stuff from the 60's and 70's, but no, he insisted on playing trance & hard house. I know it sounds risky, and it was, but some of the grannies enjoyed dancing to Oceanlab's Satellite!!! |
Who has the balls to play Hard House for a 90 year olds Birthday party. I can just see the faces of those people now... :nervous: |
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| CReddick |
| quote: | Originally posted by Andryuha
I know a horrible DJ that plays here in Cleveland. I will not name him though. He doesn't know about music or equipment. I've never heard him sync the tracks perfectly and there is no flow to speak of in his "sets." Putting on windows media player would be better then letting this guy play. The only reason why I ever went to parties where he played was because it was very easy to get in without the ID. There were also some hot girls there. It's a shame that there is so much talent here in Cleveland and they let these douche bags play and hold residencies. |
I moved 2 years ago.. so at least it's not me~! HA |
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| s3nate |
| I hate it how the more contacts you know, the more likely you are to get a gig. It is stupid, some of these DJs don't even know how to beatmatch! |
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| theognis1002 |
| quote: | Originally posted by cmay119
Who has the balls to play Hard House for a 90 year olds Birthday party. I can just see the faces of those people now... :nervous: |
LOOL |
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